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    Trafik Jamz
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    What I think is funny is that this subject never even comes up unless it is brought up by the right wing talk radio hosts. The left is doing fine and doesn't need it, but they get calls every day by people saying stupid shit like "Rush says that you guys are pushing to get this passed..." when it has not even been mentioned in any serious discussion by anyone on the left as far as it's revival (as far as I can tell...and yes, they will talk about it, but usually only when asked about it as far as I can tell...and yes, someone will now post a link to x, y or z senator saying it is needed).

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      Trafik Jamz;260797 wrote:
      What I think is funny is that this subject never even comes up unless it is brought up by the right wing talk radio hosts.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LC9KnOfO6hM

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veF2KNlHW6w

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nLdk-Kn-gk

      There's a video I saw on tv of Obama's press secretary talking about it while on a flight, I can't seem to find it online yet.

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        DelSlow
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        Weird a Fox News clip.

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          fox news= fair and balanced

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            Trafik Jamz
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            Rexwagon;260821 wrote:
            fox news= fair and balanced

            Any station that has to tell you they are...probably isn't...but none of them are.

            I'd say that the intent of the fairness doctrine is good, but the market should dictate who/what gets air time. It basically falls back to the rule that stations need to provide equal airtime opportunities to both candidates in an election and that they cannot refuse to air one side or the other.

            The argument is that talk radio is 24/7 campaigning for one party or another and thus must be managed the same as any other campaign....the difference is that with campaigns, the parties are paying to be on the air, in talk shows the parties are being paid by advertisers to be on the air....just like any other form of entertainment.

            To enforce the fairness doctrine again would be like saying "Yes, you can broadcast the superbowl, but only if you broadcast the world Curling championships on your radio station as well....because, well, lots of people like curling and some people will never be exposed if they aren't forced to".

            As to Dave's response, like I said, there are exceptions to my rule...My thought is that every time it gets mentioned...even if it is something asked of the politician and not something they brought up, the right-wing jumps all over it. I highly doubt we'll see it reintroduced and passed during the Obama (or any future) administration.

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              if you go on the fox news website it says: "fox news, Fair and Balanced".

              Yeah

              The fit is go.

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                DelSlow;260818 wrote:
                Weird, a Fox News clip.

                Fixed your punctuation for you. :bom:

                http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2009/02/hinchey_fairness_doctrine.html

                http://en.sevenload.com/videos/ixy0Vm2-Clinton-fairness

                http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid1155201977?bctid=10237007001

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                  DelSlow
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                  QQ.

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                    DelSlow;260829 wrote:
                    QQ.

                    English please

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                      Chuck the only reason you see the right wing blaring about this subject is because the left has no desire to continue freedom and liberty, and why would they want to uphold the constitution???? THEY DONT, the right at least knows that the premise of this bill is the beginning of stripping the freedom of speech away, no shit they are gonna bitch about it, at least they care.....

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                        i thought privately owned radio... was... ummm... privately owned:icon_scratch: 😕

                        Big Brother ring a bell anyone?

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                        > BlueSRT0483;244555 wrote:
                        > As proven by Parker... Not everything you read on the internet is true.
                        > Trafik Jamz;260984 wrote:
                        > You are right Parker.

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                          Parker;260838 wrote:
                          Big Brother ring a bell anyone?

                          Thought that show was canceled.

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                            DelSlow;260839 wrote:
                            Thought that show was canceled.
                            ya, thats what i was talking about... a fucking TV show... good one.

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                            > BlueSRT0483;244555 wrote:
                            > As proven by Parker... Not everything you read on the internet is true.
                            > Trafik Jamz;260984 wrote:
                            > You are right Parker.

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                              Yeah, I was wondering why you brought up a reality TV show.

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                                Rexwagon
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                                http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=27185

                                and bb
                                http://www.shortnews.com/start.cfm?id=67390

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                                  DelSlow;260843 wrote:
                                  Yeah, I was wondering why you brought up a reality TV show.
                                  i really really REALLY hope you are joking.....

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                                  > BlueSRT0483;244555 wrote:
                                  > As proven by Parker... Not everything you read on the internet is true.
                                  > Trafik Jamz;260984 wrote:
                                  > You are right Parker.

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                                    What? No way, what is Big Brother? Was that a group in the book 1984 by Orwell?

                                    Naw, its a TV show.

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                                      Trafik Jamz
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                                      Grr;260835 wrote:
                                      Chuck the only reason you see the right wing blaring about this subject is because the left has no desire to continue freedom and liberty, and why would they want to uphold the constitution???? THEY DONT, the right at least knows that the premise of this bill is the beginning of stripping the freedom of speech away, no shit they are gonna bitch about it, at least they care.....

                                      I think it is working against them honestly. I think by making it an issue they are adding fuel to the fire and putting people on the spot to make a choice. Do I want equal coverage from both sides? Sure...but I don't want it mandated.

                                      The fairness doctrine (which I am not a fan of) was designed to allow a rebuttal to a statement from the opposite side. There was/is nothing requiring equal air time, the radio stations could keep their same programming lineup so long as (for example now) Limbaugh/Schultz made a statement based on half truths or exaggerations, then the opposing side would be able to file for a rebuttal and would have to allow the rebuttal to be played over their airwaves. I'd say that talk radio ALWAYS has that happening already by people calling in and challenging the opinion of the host, others argue that if you have call screeners you never get the full story of the other side as the radio host only takes those calls that he can easily debunk. The one thing I can say about Schultz is that his call screening is as follows: "What is your name and where are you calling from". Limbaugh's is a BITCH to get through...I've tried on multiple occasions, with zero luck, I've been told "not enough time"; "Mr. Limbaugh doesn't want to discuss that matter"; and other "blow-off" lines that I think are in part because he doesn't want someone to have an intelligent counterpoint to him. I still don't want the Fairness Doctrine though.

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                                        DelSlow;260846 wrote:
                                        What? No way, what is Big Brother? Was that a group in the book 1984 by Orwell?

                                        Naw, its a TV show.

                                        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Brother_(Nineteen_Eighty-Four

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                                          DelSlow;260846 wrote:
                                          What? No way, what is Big Brother? Was that a group in the book 1984 by Orwell?

                                          Naw, its a TV show.
                                          nice google skills...

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                                          > BlueSRT0483;244555 wrote:
                                          > As proven by Parker... Not everything you read on the internet is true.
                                          > Trafik Jamz;260984 wrote:
                                          > You are right Parker.

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