July 25 - DRIVEN 2009 Winnipeg Convention Centre
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bubba;272698 wrote:
this would be fun, i'm assuming we need a passport nowdays to go across the border and back....Not necessary!
http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/publications/pub/bsf5082-eng.html
Arriving in Canada
Border services officers are at the ports of entry to ensure that people entering Canada respect Canadian laws. They are authorized to examine people and goods entering Canada to determine their admissibility. Their goal is to facilitate the entry of legitimate travellers and goods as quickly as possible.
When you enter Canada, a border services officer may ask to see your passport and a valid visa (if you are arriving from a country from which one is required). If you are a U.S. citizen, you do not need a passport to enter Canada; however, you should carry proof of your citizenship such as a birth certificate, a certificate of citizenship or naturalization or a Certificate of Indian Status, as well as a photo ID. If you are a permanent resident of the United States, you must bring your permanent resident card (i.e. green card) with you. For more information on admissibility into Canada, read the fact sheet called Managing Access to Canada. It is available on our Web site at www.cbsa.gc.ca.
All travellers, including U.S. citizens, are encouraged to visit the U.S. Customs and Border Protection's Web site at www.cbp.gov for information on the U.S. Western Hemisphere Travel Initiative and its traveller requirements to enter or return to the United States.
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From what Shane and I were told on our way to Don and Sheila's Social last weekend, it isn't necessary to have a passport to enter Canada after June 1st, however the return to the USA may be difficult/impossible if you don't have a passport after June 1st.
Keep in mind this was ONE guy at the border on the Canadian entry point. Take it for what it is worth, but I would look into it deeper before you go to Canada, then find out you are stuck on the wrong side of the border.
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depends.
I got my passport from the downtown fargo post office and got it within a week or 2.
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STiSchucky;272806 wrote:
depends.I got my passport from the downtown fargo post office and got it within a week or 2.
You're lucky. How long have you had it tho? Ever since they announced they were requiring passports, it seems like they have been behind. I have heard people having to wait 3+ months, but don't know how bad it is right now.
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when i got mine it was a few years back and it took a few weeks. but i would only imagin the gov. being behind... lol
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PSiedTSi;272807 wrote:
You're lucky. How long have you had it tho? Ever since they announced they were requiring passports, it seems like they have been behind. I have heard people having to wait 3+ months, but don't know how bad it is right now.You can have them rushed from what i've heard...
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Page 6 from US Customs and Border Protection:
It is anticipated that starting January 31, 2008, verbal
declarations of identity and citizenship alone will no
longer be accepted. On this date,** U.S. and Canadian
citizens entering the U. S. at land and sea ports of
entry from within the Western Hemisphere will need
to present (1) government-issued proof of citizenship,
such as a birth certificate, along with (2) governmentissued
photo ID, such as a driver’s license.**
While a passport or other comparable document is
not currently required for entry by land or sea, U.S.
and Canadian citizens are highly encouraged to carry
proof of identity and citizenship. Travelers 16 years and
older should also carry government-issued photo ID.A passport is needed if you are travelling by Air but not by land.
All persons including citizens of the United States
traveling by air between the U.S., Canada, Mexico,
the Caribbean and Bermuda are required to present
a passport, Merchant Mariner Document (presented
by U.S. citizen merchant mariners traveling on official
business) or NEXUS Card (NEXUS enrollment is limited
to citizens of the United States and Canada, and
lawful permanent residents of the United States and
Canada). Children will be required to present their
own passport. -
It was the day that the lady drove into mcdonalds, so last winter?
Chan you servin booze?
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I think there maybe booze at the venue, but you can rest assured that we'll have a pre party and after party at whatever the hottest club is at the time of the show.
Of course, I'll have VIP entry at the clubs for all my North Dakota peoples who make it up.
A few new clubs have opened up and you know that our clubs are always rammed with cheap booze and fun times!
Hotel information to follow and a guarantee of hot cars and new features!
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Allan,
I am not trying to deter USA residents from making your event (as this issue will be important come P10 for Canadian residents). January 31st, 2008 had one step toward the passport issue, now June 1st, 2009 will be another change:
From US Department of Transportation Website (http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_1082.html)
"All Americans traveling by air outside of the United States are required to present a passport or other valid travel document to enter the United States. This requirement will be extended to sea travel (except closed-loop cruises), including ferry service, on June 1, 2009. Until then, U.S. citizens traveling by sea may present government-issued photo identification and a document showing their U.S. citizenship (for example, a birth certificate or certificate of nationalization). <u>Starting June 1, 2009, all travelers must present a Western Hemisphere Travel Initiative (WHTI) compliant document such as a passport or a passport card for entry to the United States. While passport cards and enhanced driver’s licenses are sufficient for entry into the United States, they may not be accepted by the particular country you plan to visit</u>; please be sure to check with your cruise line and countries of destination for any foreign entry requirements.
Both the U.S. and Canadian governments urge frequent travelers to join the NEXUS trusted traveler program. NEXUS members receive a special travel card that allows expedited border crossings for both private and commercial travelers through both U.S. and Canadian border controls very quickly. The CBP has detailed information about the NEXUS program .
U.S. citizens entering Canada from a third country must have a valid U.S. passport. A visa is not required for U.S. citizens to visit Canada for up to 180 days. Anyone seeking to enter Canada for any purpose other than a visit (e.g. to work, study or immigrate) must qualify for the appropriate entry status, and should contact the Canadian Embassy or nearest consulate and visit the Canadian immigration web site .
Anyone with a criminal record (including misdemeanors or Driving While Impaired (DWI) charges may be barred from entering Canada and must obtain a special waiver well in advance of any planned travel. To determine whether you may be inadmissible and how to overcome this finding , refer to the Canadian citizenship and immigration web site.
Forfurther information on entry requirements , travelers may contact the Canadian Embassy at 501 Pennsylvania Avenue NW, Washington DC 20001, tel. (202) 682-1740; or the Canadian consulates in Atlanta, Boston, Buffalo, Chicago, Dallas, Detroit, Los Angeles, Miami, Minneapolis, New York, San Juan or Seattle.Information about dual nationality or the prevention of international child abduction can be found on our web site. For further information about customs regulations, please read our Customs Information sheet."
Now the only thing that might be a saving grace is the 'enhanced drivers license'.....I don't know if the new ND license from last year is considered 'enhanced' or not?!? It would be nice to know. I DO KNOW that you DO NOT need a passport to enter into Canada, the issue here is the return to the USA.
- Jason
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Jason no worries. I think its good that we're both trying to cover all bases to ensure that everyone is able to attend both events.
Entry into Canada by a US Resident:
http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_1082.htmlENTRY/EXIT REQUIREMENTS: Entry into Canada is solely determined by Canadian Border Services Agency (CBSA) officials in accordance with Canadian law . Canadian law requires that all persons entering Canada carry both proof of citizenship and proof of identity. A valid U.S. passport, passport card or NEXUS card (see below) satisfies these requirements for U.S. citizens. If U.S. citizen travelers to Canada do not have a passport, passport card or approved alternate document such as a NEXUS card, they must show a government-issued photo ID (e.g. Driver’s License) and proof of U.S. citizenship such as a U.S. birth certificate, naturalization certificate, or expired U.S. passport. Children under sixteen need only present proof of U.S. citizenship.
US Resident return to the US from Canada by land after June 1, 2009:
http://travel.state.gov/travel/cbpmc/cbpmc_2223.html
On June 1, 2009, the U.S. government will implement the full requirements of the land and sea phase of WHTI. The proposed rules require most U.S. citizens entering the United States at sea or land ports of entry to have a passport, passport card, or <u>other travel document approved by the Department of Homeland Security</u>.
What is this other? Well:
US and Canadian Citizens Single Document Option:
One of the following documents should be presented to prove both identity and citizenship.
Acceptable Documents as of January 31, 2008
• U.S. or Canadian Passport
• U.S. Passport Card (Available Spring 2008)*
• Trusted Traveler Cards (NEXUS, SENTRI, or FAST)*
• State or Provincial Issued Enhanced Driver’s License (when available*– this secure driver’s license will denote identity and citizenship.)*
• Enhanced Tribal Cards (when available)*
• U.S. Military Identification with Military Travel Orders
• U.S. Merchant Mariner Document
• Native American Tribal Photo Identification Card
• Form I-872 American Indian Card
• Indian and Northern Affairs Canada (INAC) Card- Frequent Land Border Crossers — To expedite processing into the United States, U.S. Customs and Border Protection recommends using one of the above asterisked
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US and Canadian Citizen Two Document Option**All U.S. and Canadian citizens who do not have one of the documents from the list above must present BOTH an identification and citizenship document from each of the columns below.
Column 1
Identification Documents*
• Driver’s license or identification card issued by a federal, state, provincial, county, territory, or municipal authority
• U.S. or Canadian military identification card- All identification documents must have a photo, name, and date of birth.
Column 2
Citizenship Documents
• U.S. or Canadian birth certificate issued by a federal, state, provincial, county, territory, or municipal authority
• U.S. Consular report of birth abroad
• U.S. Certificate of Naturalization
• U.S. Certificate of Citizenship
• U.S. Citizen Identification Card
• Canadian Citizenship Card
• Canadian certificate of citizenship without photoSo looks like if you're returning a Driver's license and birth certificate will do the trick. Now what about this enhanced driver's license? Well we in Manitoba are starting to implement them as well as other provinces. I did a quick search and found the following document which outlines what Canadian provinces and US states have them. It turns out that North Dakota does not have them and Manitoba does. So, with that in mind you can get back into the states with your ND Drivers' license and 1 item from column 2 above.
Enhanced Driver's License Document:
http://www.cbp.gov/linkhandler/cgov/travel/vacation/ready_set_go/sea_travel/faqs/enhanced_guide.ctt/enhanced_guide.pdf -
bubba;272891 wrote:
now i'm relly confused...just get a nexus card they are cheaper and dont take as long to get
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bubba;272891 wrote:
now i'm relly confused...Basically, as of June 1st, you ARE required to have a passport or NEXUS card to get back IN to the US. This goes for Canadian residents as well.
"Visitors from any country other than the U.S. need a passport to enter Canada. On the other hand, because of a friendly border crossing agreement between Canada and the United States, Canada Border Services does not require U.S. citizens to present a passport to enter Canada. This friendly border crossing agreement used to be mutual; [B]however, now the WHTI(June 1, 2009) requires that U.S. citizens have a passport to return home.[/B]"
http://gocanada.about.com/od/canadatraveloverview/qt/uscitizenborder.htm
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to avoid confusion, because every thread turns into a passport debate, we all drive our cars to the border, and just have the US cars park along the US border, and the Canucks park on their side. there for no confusion, nobody has to worry about passports, problem solved
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