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  • wesholeW Offline
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    Good reading.

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      i recall reading something about funny car engines that broke down a 6k hp engine into how much power each piston was making per stroke.

      EDIT: thanks for drawing my attention to that omission.

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        out there;290543 wrote:
        i recall reading something about funny car engines that broke down a 6k hp engine into how much power each piston was making.

        So they divided by 8?

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          2wheeler;290550 wrote:
          So they divided by 8?

          LOL

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            capitlj;290519 wrote:
            You start driving and cross the start line at 200mph then floor it. At the instant you cross the line the light goes green for the dragster. Not only is he going to whup you to the finish line 1/4 mile ahead, but he will be going so much faster than you, it will damn near blow you off the track.

            This is pretty debatable, top fuel dragsters typically run mid 4's not including drivers reaction time. At a steady 200 mph (no acceleration) you will cover 1/4 mile in 4.5 secs. It would have to be a perfect pass to beat it, and even that would not be by a lot (although it would blow by you just pass the line because of terminal speed)

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            > bubba to Cobra Rob;279451 wrote:
            > ^ and I thought I posted some dumb shit...

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              The average speed of a typical top fuel run is 190+. That's the average speed including a standing start, at the big end they are doing around 315. They are gonna catch you about 1000 feet down the track and be going nearly 100mph faster.

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                On second thought let's debate the hell out of it and then try to get it on mythbusters.

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                  Nice repost newb http://fargostreet.com/forums/showthread.php?p=39460&highlight=dragster#post39460

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                    Weak sauce....

                    Top fuel has got nuttin on 2jz.

                    no chit.

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                      capitlj;290555 wrote:
                      The average speed of a typical top fuel run is 190+. That's the average speed including a standing start, at the big end they are doing around 315. They are gonna catch you about 1000 feet down the track and be going nearly 100mph faster.

                      You didn't do very good in math and phyiscs did you?? If a top fuel dragster averages 190mph, and the other car averages 200 mph over the course, the car will obviously win. Top speed, low speed, etc, don't matter at all, if the average speed is faster.

                      If a top fuel dragster can do the full run(reaction time and E.T.) in under 4.5 secs, then it could possibly win. But simple math says that if the car goes 200mph (again, no acceleration) the whole way, it will take 4.5 secs, so they have to beat that.

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                      > bubba to Cobra Rob;279451 wrote:
                      > ^ and I thought I posted some dumb shit...

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                        inspector01;290567 wrote:
                        You didn't do very good in math and phyiscs did you?? If a top fuel dragster averages 190mph, and the other car averages 200 mph over the course, the car will obviously win. Top speed, low speed, etc, don't matter at all, if the average speed is faster.

                        If a top fuel dragster can do the full run(reaction time and E.T.) in under 4.5 secs, then it could possibly win. But simple math says that if the car goes 200mph (again, no acceleration) the whole way, it will take 4.5 secs, so they have to beat that.

                        What if the car is accelerating?

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                          KA-T_240;290569 wrote:
                          What if the car is accelerating?

                          Then the time would go down, you would need to knows its average speed, or rate of acceleration, etc to figure it out. That is why 4.5 secs is the minimum. Assuming it accelerated to say, 220 mph, it would bring down the ET to less than 4.3 seconds.

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                          > bubba to Cobra Rob;279451 wrote:
                          > ^ and I thought I posted some dumb shit...

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                            Top fuel doesnt run quarter mile

                            here a psht, there psht, everywhere a psht psht
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                              inspector01;290567 wrote:
                              You didn't do very good in math and phyiscs did you?? If a top fuel dragster averages 190mph, and the other car averages 200 mph over the course, the car will obviously win. Top speed, low speed, etc, don't matter at all, if the average speed is faster.

                              If a top fuel dragster can do the full run(reaction time and E.T.) in under 4.5 secs, then it could possibly win. But simple math says that if the car goes 200mph (again, no acceleration) the whole way, it will take 4.5 secs, so they have to beat that.

                              If the first car enters the "course" at 200mph and remains at that speed, its average is 200, the TDF car started at 0 at the beginning of the 1/4 pass at the exact time the first car tripped the beam then accelerated to 335mph in the 1/4 mile so its average would be substantially lower and 190 is probably close. The TFD car is capable of 4.437 so the TFD car would win if it runs a good pass.

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                                63vette;290574 wrote:
                                If the first car enters the "course" at 200mph and remains at that speed, its average is 200, the TDF car started at 0 at the beginning of the 1/4 pass at the exact time the first car tripped the beam then accelerated to 335mph in the 1/4 mile so its average would be substantially lower and 190 is probably close. The TFD car is capable of 4.437 so the TFD car would win if it runs a good pass.

                                And that is basically what I said, the TFD would have to run faster than 4.5 secs total to have a shot at beating the other car, especially if the other car accelerated. Reaction time has to be included too, but yes, with a perfect run, it would have a chance, even that would not be a "whooping" tho.

                                And the TFDs average speed would have to be higher than the cars to win, no matter what its low or top speed. So 190 mph average speed could never win.

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                                > bubba to Cobra Rob;279451 wrote:
                                > ^ and I thought I posted some dumb shit...

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                                  I did catch that and thats why I posted again. The 190 mph average is something else that was on the NHRA website but that doesn't sound right since they cover 1000 feet, the length of their races since Kalitta's crash, in less than 4 seconds at around 315. In a full 1/4 mile drag they can hit almost 340. The current NHRA 1/4 mile record is 4.42. So yes a 200 mph flying start might be enough to beat a top fuel car. Even though they can be going over 280mph at the 660 foot mark. I still want to see it on mythbusters.

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                                    Fact: Nitromethane messes your shit up!

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                                      gundar1;290841 wrote:
                                      fact: Nitromethane messes your shit up!

                                      truth^

                                      good god that stuff is harsh

                                      here a psht, there psht, everywhere a psht psht
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                                        inspector01;290567 wrote:
                                        You didn't do very good in math and phyiscs did you?? If a top fuel dragster averages 190mph, and the other car averages 200 mph over the course, the car will obviously win. Top speed, low speed, etc, don't matter at all, if the average speed is faster.

                                        If a top fuel dragster can do the full run(reaction time and E.T.) in under 4.5 secs, then it could possibly win. But simple math says that if the car goes 200mph (again, no acceleration) the whole way, it will take 4.5 secs, so they have to beat that.

                                        63vette;290574 wrote:
                                        If the first car enters the "course" at 200mph and remains at that speed, its average is 200, the TDF car started at 0 at the beginning of the 1/4 pass at the exact time the first car tripped the beam then accelerated to 335mph in the 1/4 mile so its average would be substantially lower and 190 is probably close. The TFD car is capable of 4.437 so the TFD car would win if it runs a good pass.

                                        NO NO, dont bring math into this, it is totally irrelevant and doesn't apply to real life

                                        sarcasm,.................. I love when people argue against simple math, it is rather funny

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                                          Zach that kind of arguement is not going to get this on mythbusters, step it up guy.

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