No way.

[DelSlow]

What Mark McGwire used steroids?? No.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/canadianpress/article/ALeqM5iW9nmOnfnXrfwKbfDwYeStwhszaQ

[bubba]

Wow... never saw that one coming...

[GarageAlchemist]

so now everyone that has beaten Roger Maris' record has been proved a cheater.

[SPANISH-RICE]

proven

[SPANISH-RICE]

wait maybe not? proven to be?

[STiSchucky]

61 is still legit.

i remember when mcgwire broke it, then they asked some spoiled 13 year old bitch what she thinks of the people in fargo about it, and she said somethin like " who cares what they think"

go maris.

fuck mcgwire, he lied in front of congress. didnt admit it the past 3-4 years. now that he got a job with the cards, he comes out with it? fuck him.

[STiSchucky]

SPANISH-RICE;298448 wrote:
wait maybe not? proven to be?
bonds and sosa are already caught.

[itRfan]

....take away his record!

[SPANISH-RICE]

i was talking about his use of the word proved, i couldnt decide if that was right. i couldnt give a shit less about baseball. theyre all on the juice and its boring as hell

[DelSlow]

A) Baseball would be more exciting if they all juiced.

B) If I recall, there was no proof that Bonds took them. Didn't he say something like "I didn't take any steroids...to my knowledge" (paraphrasing).

[out there]

nothing new to see here, move along.

on the topic of "proved" vs "proven", "proved" is simple past; thus, it should be used like any other simple past verb.

think "saw" (simple) and "seen"
i saw the film
i seen the film (wrong)

i have saw the film (wrong)
i have seen the film

he has saw the film (wrong)
he has seen the film

that proved nothing
that proven nothing (wrong)

has this proved anything? (wrong)
has this proven anything?

[PSiedTSi]

STiSchucky;298450 wrote:
61 is still legit.

i remember when mcgwire broke it, then they asked some spoiled 13 year old bitch what she thinks of the people in fargo about it, and she said somethin like " who cares what they think"

go maris.

fuck mcgwire, he lied in front of congress. didnt admit it the past 3-4 years. now that he got a job with the cards, he comes out with it? fuck him.

He didn't lie, otherwise he would be in jail right now. He tap danced around it, and never answered, just saying I don't want to talk about my past.(btw I'm playing the common tapdance sounder right now)

[SmitEvo]

I guess they should wipe out every season before drug testing then. Steriods and amphetamines were around since the early 60's in baseball

[2wheeler]

Who says Maris wasn't using something?

They ALL need to use. Then baseball might be somewhat interesting to watch.