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    Bad93ex wrote:
    Drifting = the cancer of the import scene.

    Sorry, gonna disagree. Dragracing is kinda like stripping the car of everything it should do well given its weight/size/power and making it do only one part of what its capable of. Drifting, auto-x, rally-x, etc... are 1. more entertaining to watch IMHO and 2. more difficult to do well. Now before I get into a big argument here, let me clarify what I mean.

    With a given amount of $$$ just about anyone can build a decently quick drag car and get somewhat predictable results within a few weeks/months of driving the car. Take that same amount of $$$ and build a drift car (or any other car that takes high speed corners) and not just any driver can do it...even after years of practice (actually, that might be the worst thing about drifting, its not easy).

    To call it a cancer is rather closed minded. Drifting has been around in Japan for years, hasn't hurt the quality of cars or the "scene" over there from what I can see.

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      Jim wrote:
      Drifting takes some crrrraazzy skill to be good at... thats for damn sure

      So does pooping.... 😄 🙂

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        I shouldn't have called it a cancer but it really isn't anything but sliding around. Auto-X on the other hand is totally different because you are actually trying to race and there is a point to it.

        Have you tried drifting personally? Or are you just going by what has been said? For instance if you built yourself a drift car and had some nice clean open roads (not happening in MN,ND or WI) I am pretty sure you could get good at it.

        I agree with you on watching drag racing because unless you're driving you will be wanting to leave within like 5 minutes.

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          drifting is not easy...trust me...

          At first I did it for fun, then I realized I made the investment and had to do it!

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          > spanish-rice;237125 wrote:
          > at first i thought the title said beer truck drivers needed... In which case i accidently put my two weeks in at work.

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            Bad93ex wrote:
            I shouldn't have called it a cancer but it really isn't anything but sliding around. Auto-X on the other hand is totally different because you are actually trying to race and there is a point to it.

            Have you tried drifting personally? Or are you just going by what has been said? For instance if you built yourself a drift car and had some nice clean open roads (not happening in MN,ND or WI) I am pretty sure you could get good at it.

            I agree with you on watching drag racing because unless you're driving you will be wanting to leave within like 5 minutes.

            No, have not tried drifting personally (at least not at a competition) but do know several people that do/have done it. I've watched many many many people try and drift at St Cloud DOT. About 2% are decent, the other 98% have a LONG ways to go before they are good at it. IOW, its not easy

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              PSiedTSi wrote:
              drifting is not easy...trust me...

              agreed. so many things you need to think about when doing it and working on a car to do it. and then you need some skills.

              best way to practice drive rwd in winter

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                97jeep wrote:
                agreed. so many things you need to think about when doing it and working on a car to do it. and then you need some skills.

                best way to practice drive rwd in winter

                I'm not so sure about that....cuz w/ drifting you really need traction on demand to be good. Sure you can get used to the feeling of sliding, but I don't think that its quite the same trying to link your drifts together in snow/ice as it is on asphalt

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                  Jim wrote:
                  Drifting takes some crrrraazzy skill to be good at... thats for damn sure

                  That is why I called them controlled fuckups.

                  And to everyone else, I agree that it is difficult to do and takes more skill than drag racing, but I just find it horribly boring to watch after a while all I see is guys driving sideways.

                  But, the same could be said for drag racing, it is just guys going really fast in a really short distance.

                  To each their own really.

                  Rally on the other hand, I feel, really needs to get big in America, I love that shit. 😄

                  Sorry, I take full credit for this topic getting WAAAAAAY off topic, so lets get back to the "are swaps dumb?" topic that this started out as.

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                    Yea I agree that it might not really be worth it..ALTHOUGH you want...do what u want and spend as much money as u want..hell if u wanna spend an extra 3 grand for a swap go for it....i drive a sohc boosted and ive beat a few b16 and b18 swapped cars...but when they get boost they fly even faster...

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                      lmfao this went from swapped hondas to drifting and now back to swapped hondas...

                      At first I did it for fun, then I realized I made the investment and had to do it!

                      92 Talon AWD 6/4bolt [EMAIL="[email protected]"][email protected][/EMAIL]
                      95 240SX SE SR20DET [EMAIL="[email protected]"][email protected][/EMAIL]
                      1993.5 Supra Hardtop...Sold
                      Next project? 6cyl, 6spd?

                      > spanish-rice;237125 wrote:
                      > at first i thought the title said beer truck drivers needed... In which case i accidently put my two weeks in at work.

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                        tjamz wrote:
                        I'm not so sure about that....cuz w/ drifting you really need traction on demand to be good. Sure you can get used to the feeling of sliding, but I don't think that its quite the same trying to link your drifts together in snow/ice as it is on asphalt

                        know what you mean, you got to start somewhere and learn to control and make car do what you want it to do not what it wants to do. the first time i got my 240 to brake loose on pavement was such a differant feeling than when you do it on ice.

                        and back to swaped hondas, what about a turboed b18 in a hatch?? any opinions on that i know there a couple people who want to do it in town you think that would be worth the money??

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                          b18b would be because they are plentiful and can be made to have a VTEC head (LSVTEC). They can make some good numbers boosted.

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                            B series make more power in the end versus a D series. b series have more potential but are more expensive.

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                              why do u dsm guys buy 6 bolts its still a 4g63 right? wouldnt that be a waste of 2g's or what ever they cost. u dont even get any extra hp out of it but i could be wrong

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                                lol you can get hp out of it cause the 6bolt can actually withstand some hp...better rods and it wont crankwalk on ya!!

                                At first I did it for fun, then I realized I made the investment and had to do it!

                                92 Talon AWD 6/4bolt [EMAIL="[email protected]"][email protected][/EMAIL]
                                95 240SX SE SR20DET [EMAIL="[email protected]"][email protected][/EMAIL]
                                1993.5 Supra Hardtop...Sold
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                                > spanish-rice;237125 wrote:
                                > at first i thought the title said beer truck drivers needed... In which case i accidently put my two weeks in at work.

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                                  PSiedTSi wrote:
                                  lol you can get hp out of it cause the 6bolt can actually withstand some hp...better rods and it wont crankwalk on ya!!

                                  what ^^^^^ said

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                                    Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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                                      and i find expensive honda swaps pointless...its like spending 3-4 grand for less than 200 flywheel hp...its like my stock dsm makes nearly the same hp and WAY more torqe for FAR less money...and as far as im concerned a stock dsm will last you nearly as long as a honda as long as you treat it right...and beat up the hondas while your at it too hehe!!!

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                                        im on torbs side. too much for no power. if anything put that 3-4k into a nice turbo setup for a d-series and beat a swaped civic.

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                                          whatever happend to doing what you want? remember there are more then one way to make a car fast. what is cheaper is also whats done most often. i for one, don't like doing what everyone and their mom are doing. and seriously try making 500 hp on a d series i dare you.

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