This chuck schwan guy on the news?
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Training/opportunity development for the poor = PUBLIC SCHOOLS.
They have to be willing to learn in order to excel.
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Yes and no. Many kids that go to the schools end up graduating, but still work dead end jobs because they have no social skills and/or no parents pushing them to excel. Ever think back to highschool about the kid who looked like he wouldn't make it? He probably didn't make it. If you and I can see that, then why isn't the school system doing more to try and work with these kids at a young age? Maybe set up a mentorship program with local businesses for these kids so they can learn what is going to be required of them whene they are on their own. The problem is that noone gives a crap about these kids until they become a burden and start living off the system.
So my question is this, what do you do to get the people off the system? Cutting welfare may help a little, but not without a plan to bring them to the work force. Whats the plan for the kid who grew up with his parents smoking weed around him? Or the kid with the drunken abusive father/mother. Thats the life he knows. Thats what he thinks is normal. You can give them all the education you want, but you can't control the environment in which they live. Yet they get written off by the general public as fuckups and losers. The public fucked up by looking the other way a lot of the time when they could have made a difference.
As for the not willing to learn part, some are willing, some aren't. I had a lower GPA than a few kids I knew but I managed to get a better job. If it were as simple as getting good grades there wouldn't be the problem there is now. You know as well as anyone that academics only get you so far in life, if I'm not mistaken you have zero college and yet have a good job in an IT department.
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Correct on the zero college. Honestly it depends on how each individual person handles themselves. I had a good GPA, college scholarships, and opted to not go because to me going to school for Physics/Computer Science/Math/Whatever wasn't what I wanted. I had the skills to step into a high level job straight out of HS however. That also wasn't taught to me in HS, it was self iniative that got me to where I am today.
The thing about a lot of people that don't care about school is that they wont care about mentorships either. it's really a lose lose situation as a whole. If the government or someone extends a large amount of new programs to help people or students who are poor, we are stuck paying for it, and the odds are that the bulk of the students wont care to have anything to do with it anyways. For the few number of people that would be helped, I don't know if the overall outcome could justify the changes that are made.
One thing that I do believe would be benificial would be readily available vouchers to allow those students that WANT to learn and are WILLING to work hard to get somewhere and become a valuable member of society, to attend a better school.
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integra_gsr98 wrote:
One thing that I do believe would be benificial would be readily available vouchers to allow those students that WANT to learn and are WILLING to work hard to get somewhere and become a valuable member of society, to attend a better school.I agree that it would have to be voluntary as well.
As for the mentor thing not working, I think if the kid was told that there might be a chance of getting a job (summer job or whatever) at the place that mentors him that they might take it seriously.
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integra_gsr98 wrote:
Personally, I may just sit at a desk all day using a computer, but when it comes down to leaving at the end of the day I am DRAINED. Maybe not physically, but towards the end of a long day thinking even becomes tiring.I would much rather have a job that was mentally challenging than physically challenging.
This is because you're fat. Yay to fat kids!
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fuck school
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STiSchucky wrote:
fuck schoolkinda funny how if you re-arrange the letters it kinda fits you Kirk
"Fuck School" becomes "Schuck Fool" amazing how that works
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tjamz wrote:
kinda funny how if you re-arrange the letters it kinda fits you Kirk"Fuck School" becomes "Schuck Fool" amazing how that works
lmfao, good one!
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tjamz wrote:
kinda funny how if you re-arrange the letters it kinda fits you Kirk"Fuck School" becomes "Schuck Fool" amazing how that works
words cant describe how amazed I am of your 2nd grade scrambling skills.Scramble this.
get bent
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bet tent?
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Youre missing the G. In the words of a wise man..."You lose"
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hmmm....seeing how you like to gamble.... Bet Gent works too, though it really bugs me to call you a Gent as that would imply gentleman, which obviously you are not.
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^burn.
I agree with nick though, people who want to go to school and are willing to put their time in should catch a break. Hell, I think it should work like that for a lot people. Taking out 40k in student loans, working a horseshit job for 4+ years, and then being balls deep in debt when your done is not a very attractive proposition for even middle class citizens. It is no wonder why poverty stricken citizens would rather get free money and foodstamps then bust their asses for 10 years going to school and paying for it. I would imagine it would be rather difficult to see the payoff in that or find the motivation to even attempt it when one could get everything they need for free...forever.
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