Dyno in Fargo?!?! Interested?!?
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Steve-o wrote:
I had an excel spreadsheet not to long ago where you put the number that you made and it showed what that was equal to on other dynos.You can make a dyno read anyway you want, it's a matter of entering weight. RS motors knows this first hand.
How come tjamz with an Auto WRX and an 18g (dont know the other mods) can make 310whp on their dyno. Then my friend erik with a slowboy racing 20g, every bolt on imaginable, with "the best UTEC tuner in US" tuning only makes 303whp?
tjamz = 19psi
erik = 25psiDidn't want to pick on anyone, just needed an example.
First, I should have said one of the top tuners in the USA, nothing wrong with Dan or the others that got mentioned in here either, though I am not a fan of Godspeed....just my opinion, no need to flame me for it. I know they tuned shanes/Jeremy's car quite well.
I know this has been commented already, but here is my take on what I think caused my #'s to be higher than a lot.
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I was tuned on 111 octane fuel mixed w/ C16 (I did a LOT of runs and had to buy some C16 from RS that they had on hand). C16 I know did not add power, but I'll explain why I mention that I think it was a factor in a bit. I don't know if your friend ran 100, 110, 116 or what kind of gas to get his numbers.
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Due to the fact I was running high octane fuel I was able to lean out the AFR a bit lower than 10.8:1
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Due to the higher octane I was also able to advance the timing more than most are comfortable with.
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I wasn't too concerned about running right at the edge of safety with this set up, I am probably set more lean than most would dare and I know my timing is much more advanced than most as well.
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I also ran colder plugs (2 steps colder) again as a safety measure to allow for leaner ratios w/ less odds of knock.
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Maybe I got lucky and got a great tune, but I think more is possible in speaking w/ TXS and FP...they both told me high 11's and closer to 400 whp are possible on C16.
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Frustrating.............
Impossible to post anything on this forum without cock fights/arguments/'proving you wrong'/internet weiner wrestling/etc....
Thank you Andy for your input. You are probably the most qualified to be speaking in this situation. However I am strongly regreting even asking Fargostreet the original question. Cause I knew people from other shops/competition would get on here and have to argue with someone about information that is 100000% irrelevant to the situation and original question. I strongly appreciate those that offered a simple answer and had a quick piece of insight for us.
I feel like a skipping record player when I say: We know there is more information that we will need to ask the crowd about the dyno later, but I just wanted to know what everyone thought of pricing/how often they'd use it/good idea or bad and why....
I think we have enough information for now... Thanks again to those that didn't flame this thread and offered simple insight!!!
Jason Christopherson
Store Manager
tintmasters -
Yes, you are correct that there will always be fighting/whatnot on here. I didn't expect you to know all the answers to the questions I asked. I just wanted to make sure you considered that there would be questions of that nature. The reason I asked is because it can be make/break for some people on whether they'd use the dyno (for tuning/advanced tuning) or not. Therefore, I don't think that my questions were irrelevant.
Again, to answer your question, yes, I will be using it several times per year (regardless of what your answers are to any of my questions)
EDIT: I shoulda done this in the beginning, but I added a poll to make it easier to sort through the comments.
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Impossible to post anything on this forum without cock fights/arguments/'proving you wrong'/internet weiner wrestling/etc....
Jason- I was not trying to step on anyone's business, although I feel compelled to defend my investment which you had compared earlier in the post (multiple times) As far as market research for this item, I feel this is a good place for you to start asking people. With the advent of the internet in the automotive community, you must realize now people have access to more information than they can fully digest i.e. discussing chassis dynamometers. With you doing market research trying to feel out demand, you need to be confident in your product which involves comparison w/ other product/ equipment.
However I am strongly regreting even asking Fargostreet the original question. Cause I knew people from other shops/competition would get on here and have to argue with someone about information that is 100000% irrelevant to the situation and original question.
You stated all you wanted was to feel out demand which is great, although you also later stated about how great the piece of equipment was compared to "roller dynos", etc. There were many other issues I could go into detail with arguing your previous posts, but I will not. As we all know, this is a public forum and you have every right to verbage as you please. In the same respect, discussion publicly of said issue with information inconsistent with reality will make me chime in and at least give my $.02, correct or not. I have sat out 13 or 14 pages until I finally decided I should at least chime in. I am not posting to hinder your business, as you have a well established facility and look to be around for years to come. I will not, have not, nor ever will speak down about another shop publicly because it is childish and it nets you little or no profit at the end of the year- therefore do NOT extract such from previously stated material. I don't do politics- I tune cars. I simply am stating facts publicly as I know them, to combat misconceptions that could possibly have been derived from this post. I will leave my perception on that note, and I hope it all works out for your establishment.
Besides, I have a really small penis and i could never win a weiner war.
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2wheeler wrote:
I've touched this and what Andy says is entirely true.
:eek:
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dynotune wrote:
Jason- I was not trying to step on anyone's business, although I feel compelled to defend my investment which you had compared earlier in the post (multiple times) As far as market research for this item, I feel this is a good place for you to start asking people. With the advent of the internet in the automotive community, you must realize now people have access to more information than they can fully digest i.e. discussing chassis dynamometers. With you doing market research trying to feel out demand, you need to be confident in your product which involves comparison w/ other product/ equipment.You stated all you wanted was to feel out demand which is great, although you also later stated about how great the piece of equipment was compared to "roller dynos", etc. There were many other issues I could go into detail with arguing your previous posts, but I will not. As we all know, this is a public forum and you have every right to verbage as you please. In the same respect, discussion publicly of said issue with information inconsistent with reality will make me chime in and at least give my $.02, correct or not. I have sat out 13 or 14 pages until I finally decided I should at least chime in. I am not posting to hinder your business, as you have a well established facility and look to be around for years to come. I will not, have not, nor ever will speak down about another shop publicly because it is childish and it nets you little or no profit at the end of the year- therefore do NOT extract such from previously stated material. I don't do politics- I tune cars. I simply am stating facts publicly as I know them, to combat misconceptions that could possibly have been derived from this post. I will leave my perception on that note, and I hope it all works out for your establishment.
Besides, I have a really small penis and i could never win a weiner war.
Andy you crack me up!
I was thanking you for your information, and stated you are the most educated on the subject tby far!!! No need to defend yourself! I was referring to other certain people that always feel the need to chime in on a tintmasters thread with negativity... You are not 'that guy'....Nonetheless, thanks tjamz for the poll! I should have done that right away!
Jason
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The second coming of Jesus. He shows up and says, "Yay, let me drive that bad ass mofo and you will be blessed."
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dynotune wrote:
then I just have to guess, and I'm a GUD guesser. Besides it is absolutely impossible for mustangs to get above 500 HP. Ever. Period. I've never seen it- so you're lying if you say it can happen.I would assume that is with 4 of the plug wires off right???
Is that what you would recommend if you were worried about a Mustang hitting those numbers?? -
I'm still trying to figure out if he meant mustang dyno or mustang car.....
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I figured it was a joke either way, but I didn't feel like reading back through everything again to try and figure it out.
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I would come down 2-3 times a year and I know alot of guys here would as well.
IMO I would post on some of the Winnipeg forums about this as well, huge demmand..
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