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Any of you guys know how to do networking?

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  • wa2fastcamaroW Offline
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    wa2fastcamaro
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    I need to network a computer from one store to another in my mall, any ideas on how to do it easily and cheap. The store are about 1200 ft apart.

    Funny thing is I actually took college classes on networking and forgot 90% of it. So I woul dneed help setting it up.

    So any help would be great.

    Mike

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      If wireless will reach that far, go that route. its cake, but a wireless router, plug the ethernet cord from your modem into the port on the router and yoru done. Then you just need to have wireless cards in the computers to pick up the signal. There are usually 4 ethernet outputs on hte routers also so you wouldnt have to go to wireless on both computers.

      Another thought is, if your modem is like mine it has a usb output and ethernet out. So I run the usb to my main pc, and the ethernet to my ps2. That was before i set it up all wirelessly

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        the regular distance of wireless is about 500ft in wide open space...obviously you can beef up your routers(linksys mainly) and get range extenders as well...for something of this distance its gonna cost about the same to do either a wireless or a wired network...obviously if someone has a crimper and some ends they can make you some cable for a lot cheaper than 1200ft drop is gonna cost you...

        At first I did it for fun, then I realized I made the investment and had to do it!

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        • MisterCMKM Offline
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          You can't go with just a cable, and wireless is out of the picture. Wireless is too unreliable at large distances. You will need to get an ethernet repeater, since you can only run around 300ft of Cat5 before it looses the 100mbit rating. So, you will need to put in 3 or 4 repeaters. The cable itself is not that expensive, if you PM me, I can get you a good deal on bulk amounts of Cat5. We use quite a bit of it at work.

          FASTER THAN DUBBSY

          > thrash;315544 wrote:
          > I noticed that the new 5.0 valve covers say "Ford Motorsport" or something on them. Instead, the valvecovers should be a big bald eagle, holding a rifle in one talon, an american flag in the other, eating apple pie, and shitting on the outline of europe.
          >
          > Ford is back :)

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            I highly doubt that the mall is going to let you run any cable at all, it will have to be done by a professional installer, to meet firecodes etc.. etc...

            HOWEVER

            Tony is right, you can setup a bunch of different options for wireless, depending on where your stores are located, to get that kind of range your going to need a line of sight type setup... especially if walls are involved.

            BUT theres more... if there is an existing network that both your stores can connect to, you can setup a VPN (virtual private network) to run everything...

            Or if both of your stores have Internet access and a fairly fast connection, you can setup a VPN over the net...

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              Haha.

              1. Avoid VPN over the Internet if it can be cured with a local area connection.
              2. Ethernet repeaters are ghetto and will not work very well.
              3. Wireless is easy at that distance. Line of sight or non line of sight.
              4. If you want a physical cable, Multimode fiber with some multimode->copper ethernet trancievers is going to be your ticket.
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                Ok, thanks for the replys. I know VPN's over the internet arn't the best and I am trying to avoid that. Wireless isn't gunna work, because there are about 15 walls between the stores and a few are 1ft thick brick.

                I am allowed to run all the cable I want through the mall as long, because We have been here for many years and know all the right people.

                I am just trying to find a solution that isn't too difficult and has to be reliable 100% of the time.

                Boys and Their Toys Auto
                From general automotive maintence to major service work. You name it and I'll see what I can do. Engine swaps, rebuilding, suspension, brake upgrades, etc...

                Current Toys: 1987 Fiero GT, 1989 Turbo Trans AM, 2003 Lancer, 1994 Civic Lx

                Phone: 701-371-5615
                E-mail: [email protected]

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                  Wireless can reach 1200ft easily. Check this guy out he has external wifi antenna's. http://stores.ebay.com/Fleeman-Anderson-and-Bird

                  He also has 1 watt amps that would be over kill. Running a 1200ft cable isnt going to work. That would be my last solution. Your better off having dsl in both stores and linking them together. The best would be wireless!

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                    thats why i said you can mod your stuff to make it reach farther...

                    At first I did it for fun, then I realized I made the investment and had to do it!

                    92 Talon AWD 6/4bolt [EMAIL="[email protected]"][email protected][/EMAIL]
                    95 240SX SE SR20DET [EMAIL="[email protected]"][email protected][/EMAIL]
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                    > spanish-rice;237125 wrote:
                    > at first i thought the title said beer truck drivers needed... In which case i accidently put my two weeks in at work.

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                    • MisterCMKM Offline
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                      You should be able to place a switch every 300 feet as well, IIRC. Its been quite some time since I've done things like this.

                      FASTER THAN DUBBSY

                      > thrash;315544 wrote:
                      > I noticed that the new 5.0 valve covers say "Ford Motorsport" or something on them. Instead, the valvecovers should be a big bald eagle, holding a rifle in one talon, an american flag in the other, eating apple pie, and shitting on the outline of europe.
                      >
                      > Ford is back :)

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                        gunmaster wrote:
                        Wireless can reach 1200ft easily. Check this guy out he has external wifi antenna's. http://stores.ebay.com/Fleeman-Anderson-and-Bird

                        He also has 1 watt amps that would be over kill. Running a 1200ft cable isnt going to work. That would be my last solution. Your better off having dsl in both stores and linking them together. The best would be wireless!

                        NO, wireless will not work in a mall. For one, there are many different devices, such as cordless phones, small wireless networks, etc that will interfere with the signal. The antenna is also for external use, so it will get 1200ft range outdoors in a field without any obstruction. There are thick walls and other shit to get in the way in a mall. The only way to do this would be through cable, or a VPN.

                        FASTER THAN DUBBSY

                        > thrash;315544 wrote:
                        > I noticed that the new 5.0 valve covers say "Ford Motorsport" or something on them. Instead, the valvecovers should be a big bald eagle, holding a rifle in one talon, an american flag in the other, eating apple pie, and shitting on the outline of europe.
                        >
                        > Ford is back :)

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                        • JimJ Offline
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                          I would tend to agree with Chris here, it's going to be tough as shit to penetrate a 2.4ghz signal reguardless of power...

                          1200 feet is the length of four football fields, now add in walls, interference and variables like people and shit...

                          Even a directional high powered antenna on both sides is going to have a hard time with that one....

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                            Since you can run cable, use Multimode fiber with 100mbit ethernet tranceivers at either end.
                            This is going to be your fastest, best, and most reliable solution.

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