Question for Tintmasters
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slowvo wrote:
who owns roadsounds? if you put roadsounds in it shows the same owner??i dont get it
Steve Edwards owns roadsounds.
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Can Shane, Jason, or Fossa explain it better? I really need this answer for my class project.
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So Jason.... Since we all think its hilarious that you guys are trying to hide stuff, and you took a choice to call me out, im gonna take my shot here and call you guys out. What is it you are "hiding" here?? To me if looks like you forgot to take the time to register your business trade name w/ the state of ND, and someone else which oddly enough owns Roadsounds did.......
Yours truely,
Nick Tufte
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PSI2HI wrote:
So Jason.... Since we all think its hilarious that you guys are trying to hide stuff, and you took a choice to call me out, im gonna take my shot here and call you guys out. What is it you are "hiding" here?? To me if looks like you forgot to take the time to register your business trade name w/ the state of ND, and someone else which oddly enough owns Roadsounds did.......Yours truely,
Nick Tufte
oh snap...
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I feel a battle of the shops coming up here. This summer is going to get interesting if you ask me.

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Im confused, Tintmasters account was viewing this thread with no reply, and ROADSOUNDS has been the whole time with no reply from either. Someone should clarify.
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Next they will probally try to contract out all their employees. Then they won't have to do any paperwork or pay for ins. I really don't think their employees would be stupid enough to fall for that because if they got injured or something they wouldn't be covered and would have to sue. But who would they go after??? Roadsounds?? S&S??? Also they probally wouldn't be reporting any income either. Then they would be in deep shit too.....
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Sorry it took so long to reply...between the other thread and customers, it is hard to watch over every thread. Anyone can take shots at us, or our business.... It sucks being ontop, because there is always people trying to bring you down. tintmasters motorsports of Fargo, Grand Forks, Burnsville is a sole proprietorship business and is owned 100% by Shane Noble. It was created out of a garage in GF by Shane and has expanded into what it is today, the elite shop in Fargo/Moorhead. I don't know what all it takes to register a business or keep a business properly registered, but it would appear that someone wants to be apart of tintmasters so bad that they registered as us. I don't claim to be an attorney, but for your school report uniboner/unibomber tintmasters does not have a shop in minot, never has, and never will. We will leave Minot to Steve of Roadsounds. He does a good job with the Minot area.
As far as that website.... we have the state looking into it, and obviously someone has noticed an error and is trying to take advantage of it. We are not concerned.
Tufte, sorry for taking a stab at you in the other thread. That was rude of me. You are a good guy at heart. See you at Hooligans tonight

Jason Christopherson
Store Manager
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Not trying to start shit, and start internet drama. Just cost of doing business, i have owned the tintmaster name for a while now and its kinda funny it just comes out now. You guys would be surprised how many businesses in the state havn't done thier homework. Not sure where I am going with it,dont really know what to say about it.
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Independent Contractor Verification
The distinction between an independent contractor relationship and an employment relationship is an important and sometimes ambiguous one. Independent contractors, as opposed to employees, are not protected by labor standards, workers compensation, or unemployment insurance, and are treated differently than employees for tax purposes by the Internal Revenue Service. Contrary to some common thought, parties may not simply agree that their relationship is an independent contracting relationship rather than employment. The distinction is based, under law, upon objective characteristics of the relationship. The intent of the parties is only one of twenty such characteristics.N.D.C.C. § 34-05-01.4 authorizes the North Dakota Department of Labor to verify the independent contractor status future or existing work relationships in the state. In addition, department has authority to determine the status of a work relationship after it has ended within the context of a claim for unpaid wages.
Other state and federal agencies have independent authority to determine when a worker is an employer or a contractor for their own purposes. For example, the Workers Compensation Bureau can determine when an employer must pay workers compensation premiums for a worker and Job Service North Dakota can determine when unemployment insurance premiums must be paid.
An affirmative verification of independent contractor status from the Department of Labor protects the business from retroactive liability if another agency later determines that the verified relationship is, in their view, an employment relationship. If another agency does so, it may not charge an employer retroactive premiums or penalties. If the department has not verified a relationship to be an independent contractor relationship and another agency determines the relationship to be an employment relationship, the employer may be required to pay back premiums and penalties for the entire duration of the relationship.
The independent contractor verification process is completely voluntary and offered at no cost to either party. Under state law, the department will utilize a twenty-point "Common Law Test" to make determinations. This test involves reviewing twenty characteristics of a relationship and weighing the overall relationship in light of these factors. The factors considered are:
**Degree of Control - The organization should not have the right to control the method or manner of the job to be performed. **
<u>Right to Discharge - The organization cannot terminate the contractor as long as he or she meets his or her obligations under the contract. </u>
Right to Delegate Work - The contractor can bring in whomever he or she wants to accomplish the purpose of the contract.
<u>Hiring Practice - The contractor should have the right to hire and fire assistants that he or she uses in performing the contract.</u>
**Payment Practices - An independent contractor should be paid by the job as opposed to by the hour, week, or month. ** Furnish Training - The organization should not provide any type of training for inexperienced workers.
Skill - Independent contractors are generally viewed as skilled workers.
**<u>Duration of Relationship - The contractor should be hired for a specified time period. Continuous work implies an employer-employee relationship</u>. **
Control Over Hours of Work - An independent contractor should be allowed to set his or her own hours.
Independent Trade - The contractor should be free to work for any number of persons or firms simultaneously.
Furnishing of Tools - The contractor should be able to provide her or her own tools.
Place of Work - if possible, the independent contractor should perform his or her job off the organization's premises.
Profit or Loss - The contractor should have the opportunity for profit or loss.
Intent of the Parties - The parties' intent to create an independent contractor relationship should be documented.
Principal in Business - The contractor should be a principal in his or her own business.
Sequence of Work - The contractor should be able to determine the sequence of the work performed outside of the organization's control.
Reports Required - The contractor should not be required to submit regular oral or written reports.
Same Work as Regular Employees - The organization should not have the independent contractor do the same type of work as its regular employees.
Integration - The organization should not engage an independent contractor to do something that is part of the day-to-day operations of the company.
Traveling Expenses - The firm should not pay for the worker's business or traveling expenses. -
I just think it is weird that no one responded for a long time when they saw it awhile ago.
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