Since I Didn't Get A Chance To Post, I've Copied And Pasted My Essay!
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wow this is so good i have to ham sandwiches and a soda reading this and waiting for the next reply...these are the days of our lives folks!!! lol
"tell the misses that thats how you got the man and thats how you KEEP the man
words to live by from the wise one"
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Joel I don't see what your fascination with knocking SLS is, and personally if you had PM'd this to me I would have told you to get bent.
It really is nobodies business who welds anything. Jesus could be doing the welding and it doesn't matter as long as the customer gets a QUALITY product in the end. This isn't CC Fab, it's not one guy in a shop banging out manifolds hoping to make a buck. This is a legit business in a 10 thousand square foot building on main avenue that caters to everybody whether they want to go fast, want a set of wheels, or whatever.
If you want to be the best it costs money and takes QUALITY employees who perform QUALITY work. And no, Shayne doesn't weld the headers.
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Joel, if Tufte wanted people to know if someone other than him was welding his manifolds, he would have said so. If he was claiming to have welded something personally that someone else did, then that would be a little shady.
Do you have any proof of your claims? Anything to back it up?
If you come on the intarweb (as serious as it is) and start bad-mouthing someone you better have something to back it up or j00 gonna get flamed.
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God those pictures were sweet. AND THEY WERE WELDED BY SLS. SLS IS A COMPANY WITH EMPLOYEES what the fuck do you NOT grasp about the concept of employees?
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wannabe wrote:
Ok Mike, well atleast we can relate on something here. That is the whole reason I made this thread. I am sick of everyone kissing the ground he walks on always saying he's such a bad ass welder, when all he does is tack stuff together. If it was the manifold designs, yes, they are nice, never said they weren't.In the past on this forum, other shops have been badmouthed to death but OH WAIT, if anyone else says something bad about SLS, its not tolerated...
well the truth now come out for your intentions of this thread.....not that you really care who welds, only to bash nick.
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what is your fascination here? Nick and SLS (as a company) has worked with us on more than a few projects. I will tell you right now there are very few people in this industry that actually manufacture themselves. Alot of times its stupid- why worry about welding (which can be done by an experienced guy that gets paid $15/ hr) when you can be working on new product development (potentially hundreds of $$ an hour). If SLS wanted to stay a one man show and have a cap to his business' value and income, so be it. If you want to grow, like most normal business owners, you expand, sublet, hire new, etc. You're a complete boob if you think that he should be welding ALL his own stuff. I honestly couldn't tell you if he did or didn't, but the end result is one of himself/employees/sublets produced a manifold that he designed and developed. Welding is important to the whole process of the manifold, but I would attribute 10% of the time invested in development was in the welding. Who gives a floppy cock flying fuck if he doesn't weld them himself? His company, SLS, has been producing these manifolds. That's all you need to know and worry about. If you don't like it, go buy a tig, a hoist, chop saw, and whatever other shit you need to do that and start making your own. This is a foolish thread and is absolutely unnecessary.
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I agree. Dude... stop being such a hater!
Don't deny it either, if you can't handel him telling you to fuck off when you PM something like this, then why do it publicly?
Your intentions are to rip on it, and why the hell does it even matter to you. Grow up dude. I'll leave the thread open in case nick wants to respond, but honestly its not even worth his time to respond to this bs.
PS until your welding is better then nicks, why are you ripping on his either way? I dont get it
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Turbo5Oh wrote:
also about the comment about rude service or what ever u were trying to say, when u go to a car lot with no money and no intentions to buy anything do those sales men bow down and kiss ur feet when u start looking at cars?same principle applys here, different industry but u put enough years into doing something you know when somebodys wasteing ur time
I personally don't care who welds the manifolds, but i will say this, i walked into SLS awhile back ready to buy something, they wouldn't give me the time of day, just said they didn't have any example to show me (didn't offer to let me know when they would, or give a similar choice/example) so i went online that same week and spent a little under $500 to get it from somewhere else. Now i typically like to buy local if possible and support the scene but im not going to be looked down about something and still support them. But i do respect the quality they put out, i was just dissappionted in the quality of customer service.
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Joel you have made 2 comments on this matter aside from this post. Nick responded to your posts (and mine actually, where I was corrected in what I thought) in the "Black Blurr" section. I don't understand why you are beating a dead horse. Whoever welds those products is someone who was hired by SLS to do so, so technically they are SLS welds REGARDLESS of who does the welding. That is all that matters. Its not like he's hiring SS Autochrome to make stuff for him, so please drop this subject as it frankly is noone's concern except those who work for SLS, and of course Nick's.
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Chuck fix your damn sig and get a different photobucket account to host it n00b
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OH MY GOD, is this what Fargostreet has come to? as long as the product is good (not only looks good but functions well and holds up) i think it dont mater who welded it, well unless it's child labour and i don't think SLS is like that. With that said let the man and his business be and lets just all try to be the best at what we do. Ok kids dad's going to work now, be nice and don't pick on others.
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WOW what a thread. Someone remind me what role Joel plays in creating, manufacturing and upgrading exsiting car products today?? Hhmmm...
Well I can't think of any other than puting some rust free civics on the FS market.
I currently have my 07 Apex there for a build in which Nick never thought twice about doing. It looks like a pain in the ass to me. But my point is that even if he doesn't do all of his welding he can probubly think up a turbo setup in his head like we think about tying our shoes (I know this can be tuff for some LOL).
Also how many of these performance shops pay any interest in you until you throw down some cash or show them that you are serious? ZERO. Its happened to me and I go elsewhere. Nick has been great to work with so far!inspector01 wrote:
I personally don't care who welds the manifolds, but i will say this, i walked into SLS awhile back ready to buy something, they wouldn't give me the time of day, just said they didn't have any example to show me (didn't offer to let me know when they would, or give a similar choice/example) so i went online that same week and spent a little under $500 to get it from somewhere else. Now i typically like to buy local if possible and support the scene but im not going to be looked down about something and still support them. But i do respect the quality they put out, i was just dissappionted in the quality of customer service.
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