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  • PSiedTSiP Offline
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    PSiedTSi
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    The track.

    At first I did it for fun, then I realized I made the investment and had to do it!

    92 Talon AWD 6/4bolt [EMAIL="[email protected]"][email protected][/EMAIL]
    95 240SX SE SR20DET [EMAIL="[email protected]"][email protected][/EMAIL]
    1993.5 Supra Hardtop...Sold
    Next project? 6cyl, 6spd?

    > spanish-rice;237125 wrote:
    > at first i thought the title said beer truck drivers needed... In which case i accidently put my two weeks in at work.

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    • FG2F Offline
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      PSI2HI wrote:
      Im all for doing it as long as it will happen. I dont wanna get boned again by IDR last time and be stuck w/ $3XX in trophies and nothing to do w/ them like they did to me last time w/ the Midwest Mayhem. Will we take the time to either figure out cash payouts or trophies as well as flyers to promote the event as long as IDR is willing to work w/ everyone and make shit happen for once rather then just sitting back and watch and wonder why no one is showing up.

      Nick, I will assure you that if you invest in prizes (cash, trophy, whatever), and make sure there is awards for everyone from 8.99 to 16.99, it will happen. I understand your cautious attitude completely, but that weekend is ours, and at the fee we are paying, they will have NO say in how we collectively choose to run the day.

      Should we have the bracket "classed" racing be both days or one day? I would like to hear insight from those that are going to be there racing, and not those that just have an opinion. What do the RACERS wanna see, and Nick what do you think?

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        PSiedTSi wrote:
        The track.

        only way to keep prep good, is to keep all seasons off the track, keep everyone from driving all over the gravel, keep A/C off, and clean off tires before every run. Not gonna happen 😞

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          nismoluvr wrote:
          keep everyone from driving all over the gravel

          where would u park a majority off it is some grass on top off gravel and it gets on ur tires. then it comes down to cleaning ur tires before runs.

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            You could use Saturday for time trials to see what times the cars should be in and then Sunday for the eliminations. Just a thought.

            It would suck, but only way to preserve the starting line traction for the high hp cars would be to use cones to make the street tired cars run out of the groove. It would suck for them though..but not make that much of a difference. Plus it would make more work for the track personel.

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              nismoluvr wrote:
              only way to keep prep good, is to keep all seasons off the track, keep everyone from driving all over the gravel, keep A/C off, and clean off tires before every run. Not gonna happen 😞

              I wasn't trying to say it was the tracks fault for that. Just wanted to clear that up.

              At first I did it for fun, then I realized I made the investment and had to do it!

              92 Talon AWD 6/4bolt [EMAIL="[email protected]"][email protected][/EMAIL]
              95 240SX SE SR20DET [EMAIL="[email protected]"][email protected][/EMAIL]
              1993.5 Supra Hardtop...Sold
              Next project? 6cyl, 6spd?

              > spanish-rice;237125 wrote:
              > at first i thought the title said beer truck drivers needed... In which case i accidently put my two weeks in at work.

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                Class it just like Rock Falls based on car count and then run a sub 12.0 class as one since I doubt there will be very many.

                Also sub 12.0 should be on a .400 pro tree. 😉

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                  nismoluvr wrote:
                  Nick, I will assure you that if you invest in prizes (cash, trophy, whatever), and make sure there is awards for everyone from 8.99 to 16.99, it will happen. I understand your cautious attitude completely, but that weekend is ours, and at the fee we are paying, they will have NO say in how we collectively choose to run the day.

                  Should we have the bracket "classed" racing be both days or one day? I would like to hear insight from those that are going to be there racing, and not those that just have an opinion. What do the RACERS wanna see, and Nick what do you think?

                  Haven't really decided on how to make it all work yet. We've been discussing this for the past week and half now and when iw as down in the Minneapolis and Sioux falls the other week i tried to draw a crowd to come down but none of them wanted to make the trip as they've had such bad experiences from the past few years so im still working on them one last time to give it another shot. What i dont want to happen is get them to come down and have the track be horse shit again as that'll be the last chance anyone will ever even bother again, so i got some thinking to do on how to make this good.

                  "Just because you know it all doesn't mean you can do it all"

                  "If you can't afford to do it right the first time can you afford to do it a second time?"

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                    PSiedTSi wrote:
                    I wasn't trying to say it was the tracks fault for that. Just wanted to clear that up.

                    Oh I knew you weren't, I accidentally quoted the wrong post. My bad. As far as avoiding the gravel, I understand at IDRAGS it is only possible to be on gravel as little as possible, but I guess the best solution is just to wipe off tires before you get in line when ur car is on pavement.

                    These are just things that can help the track prep situation.

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                      PSI2HI wrote:
                      Haven't really decided on how to make it all work yet. We've been discussing this for the past week and half now and when iw as down in the Minneapolis and Sioux falls the other week i tried to draw a crowd to come down but none of them wanted to make the trip as they've had such bad experiences from the past few years so im still working on them one last time to give it another shot. What i dont want to happen is get them to come down and have the track be horse shit again as that'll be the last chance anyone will ever even bother again, so i got some thinking to do on how to make this good.

                      Well if it is feasible, and there is enough drag radial/slicked cars, we could have one lane for street tires, and one for race tires (for the race car, on race fuel, at the race track..hahah bringing back good ol' days at Rockfalls).... Only crappy thing about that, is we would only be able to do that for a little bit, as many of the beginners like to race there buddies, and both are on street tires.

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                        Well, if nothing else, this thread got the two shops talking (at least on here) which cannot be a bad thing. Hopefully something materializes from this.

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                          the cone idea thing is a decent idea, for people on street tires, i have got better traction on the street then i did at the track, in a straight line ive never had the back kick out going into second and extremely rarely a chirp into 3rd. and i was spinning in 3rd on the track. i say give the cone idea a chance.

                          but i do know ill be on drag radials next year maybe even for the last event.

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                          Diesel repairs or performance products.

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                            tjamz wrote:
                            Well, if nothing else, this thread got the two shops talking (at least on here) which cannot be a bad thing. Hopefully something materializes from this.

                            Big problem is their shop bitch likes to run his mouth and talk shit. We had a customer in last week that said something directly to Tony about the shit he was ramblin about as well as he's talked shit directly to Kirk, Kevin, etc @ the last track day, and you Chuck even mentioned he said something directly to you in their own store. Personally if that were my employee we'd be having a little discussion as word spreads fast and its not exactly good business when we get customers in here telling us exactly what kinda shit he's been talkin.

                            You wanna keep stuff civil tell your punk kids to get some legit facts before they talk shit.

                            "Just because you know it all doesn't mean you can do it all"

                            "If you can't afford to do it right the first time can you afford to do it a second time?"

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                              PSI2HI wrote:
                              Big problem is their shop bitch likes to run his mouth and talk shit. We had a customer in last week that said something directly to Tony about the shit he was ramblin about as well as he's talked shit directly to Kirk, Kevin, etc @ the last track day, and you Chuck even mentioned he said something directly to you in their own store. Personally if that were my employee we'd be having a little discussion as word spreads fast and its not exactly good business when we get customers in here telling us exactly what kinda shit he's been talkin.

                              You wanna keep stuff civil tell your punk kids to get some legit facts before they talk shit.

                              Thats exactly what I was referring to when I posted what I did. It is unfortunate that people can't take the higher road and put petty shit asside instead of resorting to talking smack. Believe it or not, the whole scene and those in it rely on the shops and look up to those working there and what is said directly affect the scene in one form or another. Obviously, nothing positive will come out of it either.

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                                weshole wrote:
                                Thats exactly what I was referring to when I posted what I did. It is unfortunate that people can't take the higher road and put petty shit asside instead of resorting to talking smack. Believe it or not, the whole scene and those in it rely on the shops and look up to those working there and what is said directly affect the scene in one form or another. Obviously, nothing positive will come out of it either.

                                I have nothing to add

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                                  PSI2HI wrote:
                                  Big problem is their shop bitch likes to run his mouth and talk shit. We had a customer in last week that said something directly to Tony about the shit he was ramblin about as well as he's talked shit directly to Kirk, Kevin, etc @ the last track day, and you Chuck even mentioned he said something directly to you in their own store. Personally if that were my employee we'd be having a little discussion as word spreads fast and its not exactly good business when we get customers in here telling us exactly what kinda shit he's been talkin.

                                  You wanna keep stuff civil tell your punk kids to get some legit facts before they talk shit.

                                  Shit gets said in both shops Nick and while I try (unsuccessfully sometimes) to avoid spreading it back and forth it does happen. I'm guilty too. I admit it. I'm human, I get caught up in the drama sometimes.

                                  What it comes down to is that you two are the big players in the game around here and both have things that can add to the scene, its just that sometimes the shops are so busy patting themselves on the back for a job well done that they fail to see the need of the other shop. Tell me if this about sums it up, I wrote this over a year ago and it is stickied in this section already.

                                  Straight Line Specialties (SLS)
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                                  Probably one of the best shops in town in regards to making your car fast in the 1/4 mile. They originally were known (mostly) for their fast DSM's, but Tufte has shown repeatedly that he can make a variety of cars quick (Integra, Civic, etc...) They are very competent at motorswaps, turbo design, etc.. Tufte also has a very nice looking show IS300, that was not overdone, but blended quite well. He'll probably kill me for saying this, but he is good w/ Fiberglassing and other stereo modifications as well.

                                  Tintmasters
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                                  Originally started in Grand Forks but expanded to Fargo a few years back. They seem to be the jack of all trades shop as they do just about everything from tinting to swaps to autostarts to bolt on's. It seems that they cater more towards bolt on products and/or "show" pieces. They also do some audio/video. They probably stock more product than any other shop in town for performance parts.

                                  Now obviously you two both have grown a bit since then and your target markets may have changed a bit. There is no doubt you are going after the same customers a lot of the time but from experience, shit talking only gets you so far.

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                                    weshole wrote:
                                    Thats exactly what I was referring to when I posted what I did. It is unfortunate that people can't take the higher road and put petty shit asside instead of resorting to talking smack. Believe it or not, the whole scene and those in it rely on the shops and look up to those working there and what is said directly affect the scene in one form or another. Obviously, nothing positive will come out of it either.

                                    And you posted what?

                                    Im sorry im the only one who will come out and actually say stuff. Everyone else will ramble in person then they come on here and act like the good guy, funny yet pathetic. Just like Jason said Joel does, there's many more of you posting that do the same shit but wont admit it.

                                    "Just because you know it all doesn't mean you can do it all"

                                    "If you can't afford to do it right the first time can you afford to do it a second time?"

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                                      You know me Nick and if I got beef, I will say it. I was referring to the posts I made earlier in this thread and your right on the shit talking part. I wasn't bashing you.

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                                        I admitted I get caught up in it too...:o

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                                          I know that not a whole lot of people are into the drifting scene per say, but this was something I found rather interesting.

                                          One of the biggest shops in Atlanta, BATLGROUND Engineering, has been focusing their shop/demo car/racing efforts towards drifting. They used to have the 3rd fastest Supra on street tires in the world, and that was with no sponsor support.

                                          They sell the Supra, and pick up a pair of S14s ready to drift. But enough rambling, this is what Tracy (shop employee) had to say about it:

                                          Original Thread: http://www.supraforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=378223

                                          Tracy wrote:
                                          I'm glad that drifting is getting out there. It is so much fun. Of course what we do at the demos isn't the same way competiton runs, but the demos definately get people pumped up about it. It's so exciting to hear that people who drag race are enjoying it. It was a huge risk for us to move into drifting when we did. Everyone was saying "it's a fad". It may very well be. I don't think so....and I hope it's not, obviously. Drifting has been very good to us....way better than drag racing was ( I mean don't get me wrong...drag racing madeus what we are as a shop). We had a fast ass Supra at one time. 3rd fastest in the US on Street Tires....never saw a dime from any sponsors. Only spent a bagillion dimes on making it to the track. It was really hard on us and we really felt so disappointed after every race. It was so exhausting. Drifting is different. The cars are cheap. It's so much about driver skill and being in tune with your car. In drag racing, after a certain point, is mostly about who has more money....something we don't have much of

                                          All of this being said, I don't want anyone to think I am bashing drag racing because I'm not. I'm just saying that drifting has been so much more enjoyable for us. With the money that we spent running the Supra...we have 2 cars to play around in.

                                          That being said, I know it's possible to build a cheap drift car. You don't have to go balls out wild with crazy builds, and candy-pearl cars with 18x10" rims and a -40 offset.

                                          I think it would be awesome if the shops were able to organize a drift event at any location. I know that BATLGROUND hosts their series in the parking lot of Turner Field (ATL Braves stadium). Just something to think about, I guess.

                                          I don't know why the SCCA wouldn't be willing to sanction it, especially if you promote the idea of the whole 'this keeps kids from doing it at intersections on the street' principle.

                                          -Peter

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