Our Country is going to Hell...
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2k3WRXND wrote:
12,000 WHP Flowcus? Come on you can do better then that. Just go find a NATO rocket, strap it to the fuckus - and "get 'er gone".
Umm...don't you mean JATO (Jet-Assisted Take Off) rocket? I don't think NATO (North Atlantic Treaty Organisation) makes rockets...being a treaty organization afterall http://www.nato.int/ -
Flowcus wrote:
OWNED!AHAHA whew... Tjamz strikes again!
Tjamz, slapping the shit out of Republicans, one punk at a time.....
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tjamz wrote:
Umm...don't you mean JATO (Jet-Assisted Take Off) rocket? I don't think NATO (North Atlantic Treaty Organisation) makes rockets...being a treaty organization afterall http://www.nato.int/Sure
whatever, I'm not up to speed ( pardon the pun ) on the government issues rockets. But JATO sounds correct. -
He and I exchanged words during the election....I think we each have 200 or so posts each that can attest to that...
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and superhero might be pushing it...a little...
The problem is that I am a conservative democrat, so most of the other stuff you said is too far left for me....
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Bah fuck you, you stupid republican plick!
j/k lolIm not quite at that stage, but sooner or later ill probably start drifting towards the dark side. It always happens when people start making money. I have always supported each side for their views... and both sides have bad views and good views. I just dont much care for bush and the way he is handling the war in iraq... shit shouldnt even be a war.
But before everyone starts jumping my shit... back on topic... oh right that got fucked over a long time ago. I know! MyNova is SLOW YEAH RAR!!! Everyone bash him and forget about my babble up above.
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that's why I consider myself a conservative democrat...I agree w/ some of the dems programs and their general agenda, but I am against some of the far left leaning ideas.
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I have problems w/ the Repubs on 2 issues:
Stem cell research and abortion.I am not pro-abortion (as I've discussed earlier), I just think it shouldn't be used as a form of birth control. Counselling should be required for anyone wanting one for at least 2-3 weeks before they would be allowed to have it UNLESS it is a medical emergency. I am against partial birth abortions...unless it is a medical emergency.
As for stem cells, the embryos are going to be destroyed anyway after a period of time, isn't destroying that potential life WORSE than using the stemcells to help someone and/or improve their life?
I also have a hard time w/ the Repubs throwing the term "god" around all the time. Doesn't the bible teach not to judge others?(If so, why do so many republicans hate on gays)? That he who is without sin should cast the first stone? To help the poor (thought republicans say if you're poor, get a job)? Sounds to me like God is a democrat...
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DaveH wrote:
As the saying goes... if you aren't a Democrat by the time you are 20, you are heartless. If you aren't a Republican by the time you are 40, you are a idiot.
Since I considered myself a Republican before I was 18 and a democrat after does that mean that I was smart enough at a young age to follow my heart? -
no response to those comments Dave??
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i agree with some of what you say, chuck; i think restricting ANY sort of research is a shot in the foot. so what if we're destroying "potential people?" by using birth control, you're destroying "potential people." i'm against the partial birth abortion, mainly because the kid is (most often) already out. otherwise, abortion is completely up to the parents, more so the woman. if my gf got pregnant because her birth control failed, i think we would both want an abortion because we aren't prepared to be parents at this time.
there are quite a few things that i think the government has no right to enforce. -
I think as for abortion it's up to the Woman; not the public... Would they stop a drug that can successfully work 100% (besides abstinence) to prevent pregnancy?? It's like society wants us to make mistakes and receive punishment for it (in a way) I think as long as it's not too far along in the pregnancy it should be okay; after a certain point, it shouldn't be Okay.. As for stem cell research; I think anything that could eventually help the well being of us down the road should be looked into. Crap who knows how many diseases you could cure down the road... That could be a relative or friend
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out there wrote:
i agree with some of what you say, chuck; i think restricting ANY sort of research is a shot in the foot. so what if we're destroying "potential people?" by using birth control, you're destroying "potential people." i'm against the partial birth abortion, mainly because the kid is (most often) already out. otherwise, abortion is completely up to the parents, more so the woman. if my gf got pregnant because her birth control failed, i think we would both want an abortion because we aren't prepared to be parents at this time.
there are quite a few things that i think the government has no right to enforce.
I was 21 when I found out I was gonna be a dad with someone I wasn't ever going to marry. I wasn't even remotely close to being ready at that time. Giving life to a child, no matter how hard it can be for the parent, is worth it. Abortion is denying life for a child and killing a living human. Someone tell me how it differs from murder? -
Well here's a thought; if a woman found out she was pregnant and abused herself by heavily drinking or some crap like that, would we consider it murder? Where's the proof... the U.S. has freedom and rights.... (Think'n outside the box)
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IMO, the child still deserves a chance. One could say that many babies would be born with birth defects. True. What about those kids who would have been born perfectly healthy? I think that just because some women abuse themselves and their fetuses during pregnancy, a generalization should not be made. IMO, abortions should be allowed if 1) when severe life threatening risks are associated with birth, 2) The pregnancy is caused by rape.
Irresponsibility is not an excuse. I would venture to say that more than 75% of abortions are among women (and girls) who are not into drugs or abusing their bodies while they are pregnant. I think your excuse is an overgeneralization and a poor excuse.
Millions of people are looking into adoptions. Abortion is just an easy way out of responsibility. -
tjamz wrote:
Since I considered myself a Republican before I was 18 and a democrat after does that mean that I was smart enough at a young age to follow my heart?
There is no logical explanation for that Chuck.
It must have been the alignment of the moon and the stars that screwed you up.
DaveH
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HandoEX wrote:
IMO, the child still deserves a chance. One could say that many babies would be born with birth defects. True. What about those kids who would have been born perfectly healthy? I think that just because some women abuse themselves and their fetuses during pregnancy, a generalization should not be made. IMO, abortions should be allowed if 1) when severe life threatening risks are associated with birth, 2) The pregnancy is caused by rape.
Irresponsibility is not an excuse. I would venture to say that more than 75% of abortions are among women (and girls) who are not into drugs or abusing their bodies while they are pregnant. I think your excuse is an overgeneralization and a poor excuse.
Millions of people are looking into adoptions. Abortion is just an easy way out of responsibility.
At what point does it actually become a child is my question. Is it at conception when it is merely a massively multiplying group of cells? Is it at 6 weeks when it has finally started to take some shape? is it @ 4 months when the heart starts beating? Is it around 6 months when the brain starts showing activity? I'd be more willing to say around 6 months personally....afterall, if someone is brain dead or on life support, the family of the individual can pull the plug.
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