October 13th Street Legal
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I agree the bikes cutting up to their buddies is horseshit, it really pist me off last time. Wanted to ask the one kid last time WTF he thought he was doing, but neglected
when i got to the line i just ask and they let me in the groove.
4 wheels are still faster than 2... atleast on this forum, right Matt?
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For the track being as cold as it was, I was surprised how good the traction was in the morning. I didn't get a run in later in the day, but the track typically gets bad with all the street tires on it. If you guys with slicks and ET streets weren't being allowed in the groove, you should wave the starter over and let him know what you have for a tire. He should let you in the groove with those tires. Drag radials are not allowed, supposedly they tear the track up as bad as slicks (I guess, I dunno). Bikes hotlapping does get old, no biggie but prob needs to be brought up so it can be corrected for next year before it gets blown out of proportion.
Overall it seemed like the street legal days went over very well, thanks again to Tintmasters for putting them on.
DaveH
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yea i had a lot of fun, raced again...still not tooo fast i guess, but had a good time..
thanks Tintmasters, cant wait till next year -
i had slicks, they didnt let me run in the groove either.
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Yup, in complete agreement. When i used to go there every weekend to race sleds back about 5-7 years ago, there was none of that shit. Plus, that yellow R1=teh gayness with his revving on it constantly. I was soooo impressed!
I like going to IDR to watch, but im not really interested in racing. If i would have been there with the drag radials and they wouldnt let me in the groove, i might as well get my money back and go home. BIR ftMFw as far as im concerned, go on a wed night street event, its cheap and there arent alot of cars there.
Gary -
Grr;190256 wrote:
Yup, in complete agreement. When i used to go there every weekend to race sleds back about 5-7 years ago, there was none of that shit. Plus, that yellow R1=teh gayness with his revving on it constantly. I was soooo impressed!
I like going to IDR to watch, but im not really interested in racing. If i would have been there with the drag radials and they wouldnt let me in the groove, i might as well get my money back and go home. BIR ftMFw as far as im concerned, go on a wed night street event, its cheap and there arent alot of cars there.
GaryFew times i've been to BIR its been pretty busy, but they will not let you run slicks on wed nights which sucks.
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I remember when I ran DR's it irritated me also. I have no idea how much the DR's tear things up compared to slicks.
MisterCMK;190265 wrote:
I have a hard time believing that drag radials will chew up the groove like a street tire willDaveH
'94 Supra- 7.77 @ 176mph -
Well here we go again... The street legal events have always had those that simply didn't feel satisfied. I think with anything in life that is how it goes. We have actively tried very hard to cater to every complaint, but as soon as one is resolved, another arises. The reason the cones are there (which creates a pain for the starting line crew to move the cones back and forth), was for those that complained about traction. Now those with DR's or slicks aren't being recognized, and that is causing issues as well. If you the correct tires to be in the groove, and the starting line guy doesn't recognize it, tell them. Back when the first Street Legal days were started, we didn't allow slicks...because it is a STREET LEGAL EVENT. If you have direct issues with the way something is done at the track please don't start a thread about it! Complaining after the fact just creates more drama over something that could have been resolved at the track. I'm sure it is difficult for the starting line guys to see smaller slicks when they are used to seeing big V8's with HUGE slicks (insert Dave or Matt comparison) Tintmaster employees are present on those days to cater to alllll the racers. If you really feel urked about something, we directly make nearly every change as we go so TELL US! We try as hard as we can to make a fun atmosphere for everyone, but cannot always please everyone. We had to pull strings to get this last track day, and made the IDRAGS crew work after the regular schedule was done. We choose this, so we could hopefully get a nice cool day for the racers. It worked out, but with the cooler weather cars perform better and track prep performs worse... Was it worth it? Sounds like it was not. Next year if we decide to continue this series, we will address the bike issue day one and that should no longer cause a headache. The traction issue I think is a lost cause. I am not going to stress over it anymore because as long as there are street tires present on these "Street Legal" days, there will never be as good of traction as a regular day at the track. I'm very sorry to those that feel they didn't receive a good value at the track day(s), and think for those people they should stick to racing at the Test and Tune days and regular IDRAGS days...
If anybody has polite suggestions to offer on how to improve (we have not picked up the latest cliffnotes issue of "how to run a track day and make everyone happy), please stop into the shop and offer the suggestion. We will take EVERYONE'S opinion seriously.
Once again, sorry to those that simply weren't or never have been satisfied with our Street Legal days.
Jason
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I'd bet at least 95% of the people are satisfied with the street legal days, don't add to the drama Jason. :p:
In all seriousness, I think the events were run very well. There will always be small things that can be improved. Getting feedback is a good thing, even if it's on a forum.
DaveH
'94 Supra- 7.77 @ 176mph -
DaveH;190305 wrote:
I'd bet at least 95% of the people are satisfied with the street legal days, don't add to the drama Jason. :p:In all seriousness, I think the events were run very well. There will always be small things that can be improved. Getting feedback is a good thing, even if it's on a forum.
I agree that most are satisfied, but it is always fun to watch those that have gone to the next degree with their car run at these events. We tried to cater more to these guys cause a) these are the ones that encounter the most issues with these events b) these are the ones that motivate others to reach that level with their car. c) they are the ones that REALLY need track prep and traction...
Constructive criticism is welcome in an form...However discussing face to face about issues seems to put both parties on the same level of understanding. If the individual doesn't want to stop into the shop (the same shop that is hosting these events, and footing the bill), then I guess I can read through 5 pages of what was wrong.
Not adding to any drama here, I just want everyone to know that we are trying to help when possible and that sometimes a simple suggestion about something is all it will take to stop an issue (bikes for example...which I hold more on the lady directing cars as opposed to the biker guys individually).
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