SHOTS FIRED in Moorhead, Police Shootout
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The guy was the same guy who was arrested for having a fake gun on the downtown NDSU campus. He just got out of jail the day he did all this by the sounds of it...except it was a real gun this time.
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The story I got from the guys who were there is that he kidnapped the girl, brought her behind Mac's to rape her. She somehow got away from him and ran to the back door of the store and started banging on it trying to get in. The two guys there KC and Greg let her in and he followed, he started pushing Greg, no gun was evident, when Greg started going WTF that when he pulled the gun. Our stores have floor safes and he bent over to get the cash and the chick booted him in the face, so he tackled her then pistol whipped her a couple of times then saw that the cops were coming and took off. On a side note they hit the panic button, and the cops were there before the security company called to ask if everything was OK.
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StangerBanger96;213206 wrote:
The guy was the same guy who was arrested for having a fake gun on the downtown NDSU campus. He just got out of jail the day he did all this by the sounds of it...except it was a real gun this time.Keep trying until you get it right?
-Peter
1991 240SX
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Afsil80;213244 wrote:
Keep trying until you get it right?he'll have a long time to plan how to get it right. might be hanging out with some guys that did get it right.
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Yea this guy got out of jail last week for the NDSU downtown incident and was held captive for 9 years in St. Cloud.
Needless to say he'll have a lot of time to think about it..but i was readin this article about prisoners, and some are just so accustomed to that type of lifestyle, that getting freed isnt necessarily the best option for them, so theyll do something intentional to try to go back to jail
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I also hear he will get to serve his time in a wheelchair. Took one in the spine. Serves the piece of shit right.
> Mitch Hedberg wrote:
> I'm sick of following my dreams, I'm just going to find out where they are going and hook up with them later.ASE certified parts specialist.
2004 Impala LS 3.8 -
capitlj;213232 wrote:
The story I got from the guys who were there is that he kidnapped the girl, brought her behind Mac's to rape her. She somehow got away from him and ran to the back door of the store and started banging on it trying to get in. The two guys there KC and Greg let her in and he followed, he started pushing Greg, no gun was evident, when Greg started going WTF that when he pulled the gun. Our stores have floor safes and he bent over to get the cash and the chick booted him in the face, so he tackled her then pistol whipped her a couple of times then saw that the cops were coming and took off. On a side note they hit the panic button, and the cops were there before the security company called to ask if everything was OK.KC was working... sounds like i'm gonna have to ask him about it... I also heard that there was quite a few shots...and the fucker lived... sounds like some cops cant hit shit, at least down here when the cops shoot someone, the guy isnt going to jail, they're dead...
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capitlj;213232 wrote:
The story I got from the guys who were there is that he kidnapped the girl, brought her behind Mac's to rape her. She somehow got away from him and ran to the back door of the store and started banging on it trying to get in. The two guys there KC and Greg let her in and he followed, he started pushing Greg, no gun was evident, when Greg started going WTF that when he pulled the gun. Our stores have floor safes and he bent over to get the cash and the chick booted him in the face, so he tackled her then pistol whipped her a couple of times then saw that the cops were coming and took off. On a side note they hit the panic button, and the cops were there before the security company called to ask if everything was OK.With a panic/hold up button the monitoring company does not call the premises. They dispatch the police immediately.
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The national hit percentage for police in shootouts is something like 9%...So for every 100 shots fired, only 9 hit their intended target.
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StangerBanger96;213375 wrote:
The national hit percentage for police in shootouts is something like 9%...So for every 100 shots fired, only 9 hit their intended target.That makes me feel really safe, we were talking about this last night with a couple ppl that were set up at our gun show, I sure hope that i'm never in the area with ppl that are that bad of an aim... That's probably worse than the gangbangers hit percentage... Seriously it's not that fucking hard to hit a person in the majority of those situations... I'd be pretty pissed if I missed 9% of the time...
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Pretty much the safest place to be in a shootout with that kind of hit rate is downrange. Either way you have to factor in the fact that many large city PD's are full of people who've never held a gun until they joined the force. Then factor in nerves, adrenaline, and moving targets, and thats probably why it is so low. The moorhead one sounds like 20 shots TOTAL were fired...which means he shot at them and they shot back. So this shootout has at least a 10% hitrate by the PD, higher than the national average if all 20 were fired by the MPD, since he fired some though, the hit rate is higher. Still nothing to go home and brag about, but better than the naional average.
The Red River Valley SWAT team also outperforms SWAT teams like the LA and Dallas SWAT in competitons too. So we do have above par police up here...
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MisterCMK;213362 wrote:
With a panic/hold up button the monitoring company does not call the premises. They dispatch the police immediately.I thought it was fishy too, but thats what I was told.
> Mitch Hedberg wrote:
> I'm sick of following my dreams, I'm just going to find out where they are going and hook up with them later.ASE certified parts specialist.
2004 Impala LS 3.8
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