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  • integra_gsr98I Offline
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    integra_gsr98
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    I'd have to move back to Fargo!!

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      north dakota needs a military?

      wasnt that state like the 3rd most lethal state/country in the world at one point?

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        STiSchucky;222196 wrote:
        north dakota needs a military?

        wasnt that state like the 3rd most lethal state/country in the world at one point?

        I believe ND has a very high number of guns per capita if I'm not mistaken, in addition to a large amount of ICBMs, as already mentioned.

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          HandoEX;222093 wrote:
          I love ND but not enough to fight to seceed from the rest of the country. This would be about the the only way to get me to move to Moorhead.

          x2^^^^ at that point you can keep your mosquito infested flatland.

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            STiSchucky;222196 wrote:
            north dakota needs a military?

            wasnt that state like the 3rd most lethal state/country in the world at one point?

            I do not know if it is still correct. But i know a couple of years ago if ND would have seceeded, it would be the 3rd largest Nuclear Party in the world, after Russia and the US. MT also has alot of that type of stuff.

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              KA-T_240;222216 wrote:
              I do not know if it is still correct. But i know a couple of years ago if ND would have seceeded, it would be the 3rd largest Nuclear Party in the world, after Russia and the US. MT also has alot of that type of stuff.

              It would have been the 3rd most powerful nation in the world and nuclear party

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                Well, I'd hate to have to fight fellow Americans, and I don't think most people would raise arms against their fellow man unless things got really severe.

                Regarding how the laws would be different, the goal would be to "reset" the government a bit and slim it back down. If one were to start with nothing and rebuild the laws and framework in modern society it would be pretty disruptive. A more pragmatic approach would be to basically start with what the law of the land is today and make planned cuts / rollbacks where it made sense and where there was populist / constitutional support.

                I think it should be clear from my other posts that I'm a big advocate of low taxes, high individual responsibility, and high individual freedom. At first blush it seems like the federal income tax would be completely eliminated (we certainly wouldn't be paying washington DC). That's putting a ton of money back into peoples pockets. The question is -- can ND be self sufficient without additional taxes on its residents? It might be the case that to provide a reasonable quality of life as ND transitions to a more local, responsible philosophy of governance, additional taxes are levied above the current state income tax to stabilize any budget shortfalls (there'd be a budget shortfall because ND currently receives federal aid both directly and indirectly).

                As the government continues to cut away the inherited fat, I would expect that tax burden to lessen. I'd expect that on Day 1 people would be paying far less than their old federal tax rates, but more than their state rate of today.

                Generally, the themes I am interested in are

                • reducing the cost of government to its citizens (i.e. lower taxes, lower fees, fewer mandatory payouts)
                • strong protections for gun owners
                • stop corporate subsidies
                • stop making the government work against itself
                  (example: congress subsidizes some company to go build a factory. Then the EPA sues the company, and the government office that allowed it to happen)
                • relaxing drug enforcement somewhat
                • backing off of prosecuting "victimless crimes" in general
                • re-working intellectual property laws to increase competitiveness and progress
                • relaxing and/or replacing government regulation with 3rd party services
                  (i.e. instead of Doctors deciding who is allowed to be a Doctor via the AMA (which is basically a doctors union, and keeps doctors salaries super inflated by restricting the number of new people who are legally allowed to practice medicine because they have a sweet deal with the government), why not let anyone be a "doctor" but make sure that there is sufficient information available to prospective patients to make a wise decision)
                • lessening the influence of lawyers on all aspects of the law and on life

                I don't think my ideas are main stream, and I'm not running for president/dictator/whatever.

                What would you change about the law if ND were to go its own way?

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                  I think i'd have to move back to fargo...

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                    Yeah ND less than 20 years ago was one of the most powerful 'Nations' because of all the nukes that were stationed here. But they are all gone now 😞

                    Well hey, was watching the old 80's movie War Games and ND's Grand Forks air force base was like the 2nd target of the 'Russian's' nukes. So we gotta be somewhat important 🙂 (probably because its a major refueling station for our military.)

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                      thrash;222232 wrote:
                      -What would you change about the law if ND were to go its own way?

                      I'd like to start with the constitution and eliminate everything else.

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                        DaveH;222255 wrote:
                        I'd like to start with the constitution and eliminate everything else.

                        Fucking word.

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                          DaveH;222255 wrote:
                          I'd like to start with the constitution and eliminate everything else.

                          amen

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                            Good riddance.

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