What do you guys think?
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MisterCMK;223262 wrote:
Tufte, I know it is hard for you to wrap your pin head around this concept, but not everybody has a big fucking hard on for European or Japanese cars. Refer to the post I made much earlier about personal preference and how not everybody buys a car because it is the best performance per dollar.Honestly that is a very stupid argument when comparing performance cars, and obviously people have there own reasons for purchasing vehicles, but performance per dollar or performance in general are probably the biggest when shopping for performance vehicles. And why would you take shots at someone just for posting the results of a magazine shootout, he didn't put any personal opinion or and comments in about that.
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i'm sure i'm going to be in the minority here, but i must say that i'm not looking forward to the skyline being made available here. in fact, given the chance, i wouldn't even buy one. having spoken to a friend from college that is from a well-to-do japanese family (in japan), i'm going to trust his description of the skyline handling poorly. the combination of an inline 6 and 4wd makes it not incredibly friendly to turns. there was more to it, but that was the major damaging combination of features
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inspector01;223327 wrote:
Honestly that is a very stupid argument when comparing performance cars, and obviously people have there own reasons for purchasing vehicles, but performance per dollar or performance in general are probably the biggest when shopping for performance vehicles. And why would you take shots at someone just for posting the results of a magazine shootout, he didn't put any personal opinion or and comments in about that.It might be a deciding factor for YOU or others on this forum but what you are not looking at is how many people there are out there who buy a car buy never race it and are perfectly happy with the way it performs from the factory. Look at how many Corvettes (or insert other sports car) there are that are just driven for fun. Different people have different wants/desires and you must look at all of them rather than assuming that people think like yourself.
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out there;223330 wrote:
i'm sure i'm going to be in the minority here, but i must say that i'm not looking forward to the skyline being made available here. in fact, given the chance, i wouldn't even buy one. having spoken to a friend from college that is from a well-to-do japanese family (in japan), i'm going to trust his description of the skyline handling poorly. the combination of an inline 6 and 4wd makes it not incredibly friendly to turns. there was more to it, but that was the major damaging combination of featuresYour friend is obviously clueless, and you live under a rock.
The new skyline is a fucking beast in a straight line and set records at the nurenburgring (sp?).
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integra_gsr98;223413 wrote:
Your friend is obviously clueless, and you live under a rock.The new skyline is a fucking beast in a straight line and set records at the nurenburgring (sp?).
The Lexus LF-A beat the ring record by multipe seconds last time i read into it.
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MisterCMK;223334 wrote:
It might be a deciding factor for YOU or others on this forum but what you are not looking at is how many people there are out there who buy a car buy never race it and are perfectly happy with the way it performs from the factory. Look at how many Corvettes (or insert other sports car) there are that are just driven for fun. Different people have different wants/desires and you must look at all of them rather than assuming that people think like yourself.The tests are not just straight up performance if you've ever read into the article. The test many things from as far as performance to handling to road noise to interior comfort, etc..
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PSI2HI;223416 wrote:
The Lexus LF-A beat the ring record by multipe seconds last time i read into it.Beat the GT-R by one second as measured by bystanders at the track.
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tjamz;223430 wrote:
Beat the GT-R by one second as measured by bystanders at the track.From the articles i've found the GT-R best was 7:29, the LF-A best was 7:24.
There's a link to the article but its all japanese. There's also articles that say the GT-R that did that 7:29 run is not what is the production car that will be sold. The original test rated the GT-R ring lap @ 7:38.
Corvette Z06 7:49
Ford GT 7:52Apparently now though there has been a modified Porsche GT2 that clicked of 7:15!
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MisterCMK;223261 wrote:
I'm not 50 years old so I have no idea what I would do. I'll cross that bridge if/when I get there.Yes, I have seen the new Challenger in person.
They are bringing it back because people want them and people will buy them.
Lets see, with a new GTO you have a warranty, all the latest creature comforts, comfort, etc. Not to mention the price of the 60s and 70s Pontiacs has absolutely skyrocketed in the last few years.
Now you are talking about people giving themselves a reputation which has nothing to do with a company deciding to bring back a car. He gave himself that reputation but 90% of the GTOs I see out there are driven by people who aren't like that clown.
The whole idea behind the GTO and most of the muscle cars back then was that they were affordable and that the average joe could drive one.
have you even thought why the prices have gone up so much?? maye the fact that around every corner you turn there you see it. middle age mexican dude pinchin pennies to have his "dream car" uh fuck that.
if im gunna spend money on a car that so much as shares the name of a classic such as a gto or challenger. i dont wanna see pablo and his gang-o-homies mexi packed in the same thing.
so if you want to spend your hard earned money on something the average joe can afford. then congrats....you still an average joe. more power to ya. but when you see your precious challenger packed full of the minority, and you cant show them a thing or 2 cuz you went the cheap way and got the same thing. all you do is look down and say to yourself "damnit....i shouldve got the real thing."
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btw....im not racist
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PSI2HI;223433 wrote:
From the articles i've found the GT-R best was 7:29, the LF-A best was 7:24.There's a link to the article but its all japanese. There's also articles that say the GT-R that did that 7:29 run is not what is the production car that will be sold. The original test rated the GT-R ring lap @ 7:38.
Corvette Z06 7:49
Ford GT 7:52Apparently now though there has been a modified Porsche GT2 that clicked of 7:15!
http://www.nextautos.com/motorsports/lexus-lf-a-sets-unofficial-lap-record-at-the-nurburgring/
http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/Secret-new-cars/Search-Results/Spyshots/Nissan-GT-R-V-Spec/
I was wrong...both are unofficial....but the Lexus is 1 second faster unofficially.
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no_slow_clap;223441 wrote:
have you even thought why the prices have gone up so much?? maye the fact that around every corner you turn there you see it. middle age mexican dude pinchin pennies to have his "dream car" uh fuck that.if im gunna spend money on a car that so much as shares the name of a classic such as a gto or challenger. i dont wanna see pablo and his gang-o-homies mexi packed in the same thing.
so if you want to spend your hard earned money on something the average joe can afford. then congrats....you still an average joe. more power to ya. but when you see your precious challenger packed full of the minority, and you cant show them a thing or 2 cuz you went the cheap way and got the same thing. all you do is look down and say to yourself "damnit....i shouldve got the real thing."
What does it matter who else drives the car? There will always be somebody who you don't think should be that drives a certain car. I see what your thoughts on this are now. You think that only certain people should be able to drive certain cars. If somebody who you feel is inferior drives a vehicle you think that the car is automatically crap.
BTW, last time I checked a Challenger is a Challenger and this the new ones are "the real thing."
no_slow_clap;223442 wrote:
btw....im not racistbullfucking shit
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All these new era cars trying to be replica's of the true muscle cars a joke. They will never be what the muscle cars are.
Sure, they can continue making them, but to a true muscle car guru, new era cars are a waste of metal compared to the real thing.
my .02
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Link;223527 wrote:
All these new era cars trying to be replica's of the true muscle cars a joke. They will never be what the muscle cars are.Sure, they can continue making them, but to a true muscle car guru, new era cars are a waste of metal compared to the real thing.
my .02
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MisterCMK;223520 wrote:
What does it matter who else drives the car? There will always be somebody who you don't think should be that drives a certain car. I see what your thoughts on this are now. You think that only certain people should be able to drive certain cars. If somebody who you feel is inferior drives a vehicle you think that the car is automatically crap.BTW, last time I checked a Challenger is a Challenger and this the new ones are "the real thing."
bullfucking shit
id just prefer original over remake, like the start wars movies.
original shows more class in my oppinion and over its more of a head turner.
and im not a racist. you should see where i live. im not allowed unless i want to get lynched.
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