My P10, Bitches
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2wheeler;231669 wrote:
The 16 I counted was OUR count using GSR's method of counting 2 bikes as 1 "participating" vehicle. Would someone list the "16" that GA had?I don't want to get into this pissing match Ethan. That award was decided by TM, and not the judges (EDIT: though we had the right to veto it I believe). We were told it was based on entries....maybe it was entries +trophies won... I don't know. My understanding was entries only, but if that is the case you have a legit argument.
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This is why I stick to racing. No judging just numbers. Not saying anyone judged wrong. Someone will always have a different opinion. But car shows are fun none the less.
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tjamz;231682 wrote:
That award was decided by TM, and not the judges.This is contradictory to EVERYTHING I have been told.
And, to be clear, this is NOT a pissing match. GA won, end of story. All I have done is ask questions and give facts. If PP would like to win this award, we need to know what we need to improve on for '09.
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DelSlow;231701 wrote:
Isn't Ground Assault like TM's car club pretty much?no they are. we do work on a lot of the car in there club, and we also work on cars in playtime. so are they are club too then???
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2wheeler;231697 wrote:
This is contradictory to EVERYTHING I have been told.I don't know how to respond on that one. The indication that I got in the judges meeting was that GA had the largest club in attendance and won based on that....I dunno, but I know we didn't talk about this for more than 30 seconds as it seemed clear based on the info we had given. It seems to me like this will be an issue that TM will have to sort out for next year to have a more clear guideline. It is a learning experience for everyone...participants, judges, spectators, tintmasters, etc.. All we can do is hope that any mistakes/concerns are corrected going forward. I just hope that no one thinks any of this is personal, as it wasn't...if it were, Veritas would have walked out with the best team award :icon_jokercolor:
At this time, I have no answer on how you can do better and win that award next year. Shitty answer, I know, but it is the truth.
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King Ricer;231707 wrote:
no they are. we do work on a lot of the car in there club, and we also work on cars in playtime. so are they are club too then???As far as that goes, wouldn't that make Veritas part of the tintmasters car club as well? We've all had stuff done on our cars by Tintmasters...what I'm getting at is that Tintmasters is the last player in town as far as customizing local cars on a daily basis...
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King Ricer;231707 wrote:
no they are. we do work on a lot of the car in there club, and we also work on cars in playtime. so are they are club too then???Hmmm...what i meant was; isn't GA the car club that TM's backs 100% and formally represents them.
Dunno how to explain what i mean any better, and im sure you know exactly what i mean by saying that too.
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DelSlow;231718 wrote:
Hmmm...what i meant was; isn't GA the car club that TM's backs 100% and formally represents them.Dunno how to explain what i mean any better, and im sure you know exactly what i mean by saying that too.
define "backs 100%" please. They buy their stuff and pay for labor just like everyone else....they might get a discount, but with the volume of work they have done there, I think that is justified. They don't only have their cars worked on at TM either, at least 3 or 4 members have approached me for stereo equipment....including 1 car who I sponsored 100% of the labor on and got him equipment at 40% below cost (IOW, he got manufacturer sponsorship for that as well as shop sponsorship).
But yes, they have a lot of their work done at TM, but they are far from being the "Tintmasters Car Club" that you are suggesting.
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DelSlow;231718 wrote:
Hmmm...what i meant was; isn't GA the car club that TM's backs 100% and formally represents them.Dunno how to explain what i mean any better, and im sure you know exactly what i mean by saying that too.
backs them?....you must be new to the scene, just because they put the tm stickers on to represent a good shop. they rep with them for away shows to bring an acknowledgment to the nd car scene. Tintmasters is not a car club. they are the only shop around that does good work on all aspects of a car.
so i would like to thank them for making the car scene what it is today and for the biggest car show in ND!! Woot Woot:icon_cheers:
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