Need a detail done
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SPANISH-RICE;232921 wrote:
he said that car had no clearcoat?? wtf? its very shiny for nto having clear coatSingle stage paint. Base+clear. Can be just as shiny and actually better for solid colors without pearls and flakes.
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GhettoFabulousCRX;237466 wrote:
Single stage paint. Base+clear. Can be just as shiny and actually better for solid colors without pearls and flakes.Bull Shit!!! What do you mean its better? in no way is it better. You can get a higher gloss on a clear coat than on a single stage paint
Single Stage Paint..Usually doesnt last much longer than 10 years... Look at some old red civics they have turned pink. Yeah you can polish them out and they look good for a while but another year goes by and it has turned pink again..
If you want a good look for a long time base coat clear is the way to go.Think of it this way, ALL paint oxidizes & gets small scratches. With BC/CC
you have the clear PROTECTING the paint, so the clear takes the weather and abuse leaving the basecoat paint unharmed. And small scratches in the cleareasily polish out leaving the basecoat untouched. Often touchup isn't even needed, just a dab of rubbing compound and some elbow grease.
With a single stage, any damage to the paint really is damaging the paint. And
polishing it out risks polishing THROUGH the paint much easier. -
Ill take his word for it^
here a psht, there psht, everywhere a psht psht
PVC SQUAD MEMBER #2- 95 CIVIC EX- DD 320whp on a mustang dyno
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aliengotpsi;237712 wrote:
Bull Shit!!! What do you mean its better? in no way is it better. You can get a higher gloss on a clear coat than on a single stage paintSingle Stage Paint..Usually doesnt last much longer than 10 years... Look at some old red civics they have turned pink. Yeah you can polish them out and they look good for a while but another year goes by and it has turned pink again..
If you want a good look for a long time base coat clear is the way to go.Think of it this way, ALL paint oxidizes & gets small scratches. With BC/CC
you have the clear PROTECTING the paint, so the clear takes the weather and abuse leaving the basecoat paint unharmed. And small scratches in the cleareasily polish out leaving the basecoat untouched. Often touchup isn't even needed, just a dab of rubbing compound and some elbow grease.
With a single stage, any damage to the paint really is damaging the paint. And
polishing it out risks polishing THROUGH the paint much easier.Polishing b/c is exactly the same. When buffing it you can pull a shine back untill you go past the clear, then your fucked. With single stage you have the entire coat to pull a shine back with. Single is awesome for solid colors I dunno what your talking about. You get a scratch in your black car with single stage it's not gonna be white. Also honda milano red is kind of a mix of both, it has a red base and a clear coat with a minor red tint. If single is so bad why do companies like lexus and mitsu use it? Obviously 2 stage owns in some situation, sprayed it on my Z.
My civic was pretty bad, pink in a lot of spots. Quick buff and some wetsanding on the bad areas. Not bad for a 1990. Original paint. still looks good after a long time since this buff.
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GhettoFabulousCRX;237754 wrote:
Polishing b/c is exactly the same. When buffing it you can pull a shine back untill you go past the clear, then your fucked. With single stage you have the entire coat to pull a shine back with. Single is awesome for solid colors I dunno what your talking about. You get a scratch in your black car with single stage it's not gonna be white. Also honda milano red is kind of a mix of both, it has a red base and a clear coat with a minor red tint. If single is so bad why do companies like lexus and mitsu use it? Obviously 2 stage owns in some situation, sprayed it on my Z.My civic was pretty bad, pink in a lot of spots. Quick buff and some wetsanding on the bad areas. Not bad for a 1990. Original paint. still looks good after a long time since this buff.
....but it will turn pink again. My evo did it all the time, would have to be buffed/polished all the time to keep full color. The fading sucks compared to other paint.
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take care of your car and no matter what kinda paint you have it's gonna look great
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i guess im a n00b at paint stuff.
here a psht, there psht, everywhere a psht psht
PVC SQUAD MEMBER #2- 95 CIVIC EX- DD 320whp on a mustang dyno
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GhettoFabulousCRX;237754 wrote:
Polishing b/c is exactly the same. When buffing it you can pull a shine back untill you go past the clear, then your fucked. With single stage you have the entire coat to pull a shine back with. Single is awesome for solid colors I dunno what your talking about. You get a scratch in your black car with single stage it's not gonna be white. Also honda milano red is kind of a mix of both, it has a red base and a clear coat with a minor red tint. If single is so bad why do companies like lexus and mitsu use it? Obviously 2 stage owns in some situation, sprayed it on my Z.My civic was pretty bad, pink in a lot of spots. Quick buff and some wetsanding on the bad areas. Not bad for a 1990. Original paint. still looks good after a long time since this buff.
That is a joke. You messed with the settings on the camera. whoopedy do.
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All I did was desaturate the background, sorry there is no shine button in photoshop to make paint look better.. Heres another pic, I didn't touch this one in photoshop. Blurred background is from low aperature
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Cleanly^ that looks much better
here a psht, there psht, everywhere a psht psht
PVC SQUAD MEMBER #2- 95 CIVIC EX- DD 320whp on a mustang dyno
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Yeah next time you talk to your mappy let her know I still have it
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Many auto companies use single stage paint because its cheaper!! Not because it has more gloss! But I will post pics of a singe staged black Lexus Im buffing.. Rail dust, overspray, tar, oxidation, swirls, holograms,buffer trails ..
Single stage paint oxidizes faster.. My opinion single stage paint is gayness. I think I have buffed/ polished/ sealed more cars than anyone on this site..
We should make a list of cars that came in single stage...
- Mits evo ( Red )
- Mits/dodge 3000gt/stealth ( Red Black)
3 lexus 2000 sc300? ( black)
4.honda civic 92-95 (red) (Black) - Ford F-150 92 style (red)
6.Toyota Camry 92ish (white)
7.Toyota Tercel (red)
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GhettoFabulousCRX;237466 wrote:
Can be just as shinyNever said its more glossy.....
aliengotpsi;238083 wrote:
I think I have buffed/ polished/ sealed more cars than anyone on this site.
Possibly? I dunno I guess I never started counting, didn't know there was a contest going on
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GhettoFabulousCRX;237754 wrote:
Polishing b/c is exactly the same. When buffing it you can pull a shine back untill you go past the clear, then your fucked. With single stage you have the entire coat to pull a shine back with. Single is awesome for solid colors I dunno what your talking about. You get a scratch in your black car with single stage it's not gonna be white. Also honda milano red is kind of a mix of both, it has a red base and a clear coat with a minor red tint. If single is so bad why do companies like lexus and mitsu use it? Obviously 2 stage owns in some situation, sprayed it on my Z.My civic was pretty bad, pink in a lot of spots. Quick buff and some wetsanding on the bad areas. Not bad for a 1990. Original paint. still looks good after a long time since this buff.
Do you know how long it takes to cut throught clear? You really have to try to do it.
Me, Jeremy and Kevin did an expirement with bc/cc fender that kevin painted. First off kevin keyed the fender through the clear and base coat. then me a jeremy took a buffer to it with a wool pad and 3000 rpm's. And it wouldnt cut through.
how long can you do that with a single stage?
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untill you hit primer, wich takes a while
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