Droooooolllll
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fdfreak;246453 wrote:
Most of us "ricers" (I hate that freaking word) build what we can afford. and its alot cheaper to hop up a 4cyl than a V8.You should seriously reconsider that statement.
V8 parts are cheap and readily available....now if you want to start putting 200hp/liter out, that might be a little different, however a 500 whp 350cid engine is much cheaper and more reliable than most 4 cylinders trying to achieve that same goal.
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KA-T_240;246534 wrote:
I could put a 500hp v8 in my 240. It would be faster, more reliable, get better gasmileage, and if i would have done it from the start probably cheaper. Then my KA-T setup.why didn't you? what kind of gas mileage are you getting? must not be very good if a 500hp v8 would get better.
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12.645@118mph 12.6psi
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tjamz;246533 wrote:
You should seriously reconsider that statement.you must have missed where I said "ok, you win" after Gary's statement. ok, I was wrong. lets get over it. should we get back to the original point of this post or does someone else want to tell me im wrong?
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Why is anyone argueing that v8s are cheaper to make go fast than 4 cylinders? thats just retarded. Gary, a few reason sI, and I'm sure other import owners, Choose to mod 4 cylinders rather than v8s include:
-Domestic cars that are affordable are ugly.
-ability to double the horsepower on a motor with no internal modification and keep it reliable.And the most important reason:
-The look on a Yuppie Porsche/Mustang/Camaro/Corvette owners face when you pull away from them in a Rusty Honda Civic Hatchback that sounds like a Sneezing chain saw.
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Why is anyone arguing that v8s are cheaper to make go fast than 4 cylinders? Thats just retarded. Gary, a few reasons I, and I'm sure other import owners, choose to mod 4 cylinders rather than v8s include:
-Domestic cars that are affordable are ugly.
-ability to double the horsepower on a motor with no internal modification and keep it reliable.And the most important reason for staying with 4 cylinders...
-The look on a Hick/Yuppie Porsche/Mustang/Camaro/Corvette owners face when you pull away from them in a rusty Honda Civic hatchback that sounds like a sneezing chain saw.
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Joel;246544 wrote:
-Domestic cars that are affordable are ugly.
Oh and a honda civic hatch is not.:icon_puke_l: This is just an opinion anyway.Joel;246544 wrote:
-ability to double the horsepower on a motor with no internal modification and keep it reliable.
ummm I'll just use the best example I know, bone stock HO 302 150ish to the wheels. Add a $1500 blower, cheaper if you get a used one, 350ish to the wheels on a motor with 0 internal mods and over 100k ticks on the odometer. Will run reliably for another 80k before it needs any major work.On topic - a little paint on that engine would equal hot secks
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fdfreak;246536 wrote:
why didn't you? what kind of gas mileage are you getting? must not be very good if a 500hp v8 would get better.cruising with the rotary in my car i never did better than about 20-22mpg usually about 16-18mpg..... and when you were beating on the car at all you could watch the gauge fall
with the 4.8 in my car it did a bit better than 25 on the highway..... alot of vettes with a tune do around that 30 mark......
with a little more work on the tune, i could have been at 30 too
its hard to knock on that
granted a modded 4 cylinder could pull around 40, but 30 is still nothing horrible by any means
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^hmmmm. did not know that the vets got that good of gas mileage. but now your talking about cars and technology that the average joe cant afford. other than your 4.8, what kind of gas mileage do resonably priced crate engines get?
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fdfreak;246572 wrote:
but now your talking about cars and technology that the average joe cant afford. other than your 4.8, what kind of gas mileage do resonably priced crate engines get?All the Gen III/IV GM engines would do this in a light car with good aero....
granted not on big cam/head NA setup with large gears......
but on a turbo setup where you keep your overlap and stuff down, and run smaller gears, then yes easy
and still have all the power you could handle at your disposal, and have almost OEM drivability
Heck just like gary's GN,.... that thing drove like a stock/civilized car... till you let her buck, then it was a different machine
Gary what kind of mileage did you get in the GN, being full weight and everything??
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Joel;246545 wrote:
And the most important reason for staying with 4 cylinders...-The look on a Hick/Yuppie Porsche/Mustang/Camaro/Corvette owners face when you pull away from them in a rusty Honda Civic hatchback that sounds like a sneezing chain saw.
I have caused this to happen once, and it was the best look from someone i've seen...
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zbrown;246607 wrote:
All the Gen III/IV GM engines would do this in a light car with good aero....granted not on big cam/head NA setup with large gears......
but on a turbo setup where you keep your overlap and stuff down, and run smaller gears, then yes easy
and still have all the power you could handle at your disposal, and have almost OEM drivability
Heck just like gary's GN,.... that thing drove like a stock/civilized car... till you let her buck, then it was a different machine
Gary what kind of mileage did you get in the GN, being full weight and everything??
My car, at around 3800lbs with me in it and on only 9psi went 12.20@116 on my snow tires, and 11.42@119 on DRs, both into a 40mph headwind and on 89 octane gas. I had been as high as 127mph when i went 11.7x last year making around 125hp more. I feel with a decent tune and some premium i would have gone 10.6-10.8@130.
And on my roadtrip to detroit to sell it i averaged 82mph and got a 1250mile trip MPG of 25.8. One tank i got 26.9 on that trip. Highest i recorded was a weekend fuckoff trip where i logged my distance on the GPS and managed 27.7MPG, with some backroads screwing around in there as well.
Remember this was on a completely stock motor and trans, 80mph on the interstate was 2200, 60mph was around 1850. That thing was making over 600hp and close to 600lb-ft for 2 years and never missed a beat, id do it all over again but this time in a 240sx, (right zac) -
Grr;246860 wrote:
My car, at around 3800lbs with me in it and on only 9psi went 12.20@116 on my snow tires, and 11.42@119 on DRs, both into a 40mph headwind and on 89 octane gas. I had been as high as 127mph when i went 11.7x last year making around 125hp more. I feel with a decent tune and some premium i would have gone 10.6-10.8@130.
And on my roadtrip to detroit to sell it i averaged 82mph and got a 1250mile trip MPG of 25.8. One tank i got 26.9 on that trip. Highest i recorded was a weekend fuckoff trip where i logged my distance on the GPS and managed 27.7MPG, with some backroads screwing around in there as well.
Remember this was on a completely stock motor and trans, 80mph on the interstate was 2200, 60mph was around 1850. That thing was making over 600hp and close to 600lb-ft for 2 years and never missed a beat, id do it all over again but this time in a 240sx, (right zac)Is this supposed to be a hint, lol...
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