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30% over the flow rate.
As far as factory flow rate, i dont know the numbers.
and im too busy to hit up google.
The car was started and running this after noon. I got the call that it was running and was able to hear it in the back ground. Ive got a few vacuum leaks to fix when i get there and then it goes on the dyno right after for a break in tune.
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no_slow_clap;269231 wrote:
The car was started and running this after noon. I got the call that it was running and was able to hear it in the back ground. Ive got a few vacuum leaks to fix when i get there and then it goes on the dyno right after for a break in tune.So you pay them to assemble a motor, install it, tune it, etc.... but you have to show up to fix the vacuum leaks?? Are they not capable or are you trying to save $10 on labor??
Congratualations tho,looks great, can't wait to see what it makes. Should be fun.
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inspector01;269233 wrote:
So you pay them to assemble a motor, install it, tune it, etc.... but you have to show up to fix the vacuum leaks?? Are they not capable or are you trying to save $10 on labor??Congratualations tho,looks great, can't wait to see what it makes. Should be fun.
Sorta. the vacuum leak is from my crap ass samco diverter valve. so i have an MR diverter sitting with my old uicp at the house. I just have to put it on temporarily untill i get my synapse/synchronic.
Thanks man, im very excited too. this will be very interesting once finished.
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no_slow_clap;269231 wrote:
30% over the flow rate.As far as factory flow rate, i dont know the numbers.
What did it cost for the port job?
30% over factory doesn't tell anyone anything....
where does it flow 30% more at? across the board? only at extremely high lift??..... at low lift???
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no_slow_clap;269231 wrote:
30% over the flow rate.As far as factory flow rate, i dont know the numbers.
I certainly hope they had that head on a flow bench to claim 30% increase on the flow rate of the head vs. stock. Did they actually send you a flow test sheet? Same thing as a dyno sheet proving the hp and I would never believe any claims till I seen that. Believe it or not, It is rather easy to port and polish a cylinder head providing you have proper tools and the time to so so. (especially aluminum ones) The trick is getting every port to flow equally. Ask me how I know. I've fucked up a few sets of heads over the years learning how to port heads. I'm no pro mind you but What I previously mentioned, <u>I know</u>. I am in no way doubting the work of who you had do the work. I'm sure the work was top notch. I just believe in seeing #'s to back up claims.
And no, dont ask me to port any cylinder heads. Fuck that!! Aint worth my time for the amount of $$ involved and I have no way of putting a guarantee on my work.
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Slowica;269238 wrote:
lookin good....it needs to see the track this summerit will.
first to mir to get a few passes on the 1/4, then its off to Summit.
zbrown;269242 wrote:
What did it cost for the port job?30% over factory doesn't tell anyone anything....
where does it flow 30% more at? across the board? only at extremely high lift??..... at low lift???
haha, i was vague in my description for a reason. Not trying to come off as a dick, but i cant really explain what i had done....because im not allowed to lol.
but it was not the tradition port/polish with valve job, it was all cnc work. As for a price, you will have to call Nick @ dtm. i supplied my own valve train so it affected the price quite a bit.
weshole;269244 wrote:
I certainly hope they had that head on a flow bench to claim 30% increase on the flow rate of the head vs. stock. Did they actually send you a flow test sheet? Same thing as a dyno sheet proving the hp and I would never believe any claims till I seen that. Believe it or not, It is rather easy to port and polish a cylinder head providing you have proper tools and the time to so so. (especially aluminum ones) The trick is getting every port to flow equally. Ask me how I know. I've fucked up a few sets of heads over the years learning how to port heads. I'm no pro mind you but What I previously mentioned, <u>I know</u>. I am in no way doubting the work of who you had do the work. I'm sure the work was top notch. I just believe in seeing #'s to back up claims.And no, dont ask me to port any cylinder heads. Fuck that!! Aint worth my time for the amount of $$ involved and I have no way of putting a guarantee on my work.
and i fully agree with what you stated. I guess i shouldnt have said 30%, because I am not sure. (flame suit on and ready)
All the descussion about what was getting done was decided between Nick and Dave @ headgames. I was just relayed the message.
anyways, i got to the shop....what a night.
My jmfab uicp would NOT go back on, so we had to cut it, and use an L-shaped piece of silicon to fix that.
then the car wouldnt idle or stay running. we had the front o2 foul out, followed by all 4 spark plugs. but that still wouldnt run right. so after a few more boost leak checks, my throttle body shaft seals we SHOT. leaking out after only after persurized 10 psi!!!
so we put new shaft seals in, and it STILL would run right. it was way better, but still at -15.8 stft. we tried using a adjustable cam gear to retard the timing a little on the exhaust cam, no luck what so ever. Turns out the cams were too agressive for the stock ecu. If i would have had AEM we would have been golden, but i dont need it for a semi daily driven track car.
we put the stock cams back in the car, and im going to break in on those. when my next set of new cams comes in, ill hopefully be able to make some power.
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no_slow_clap;269265 wrote:
haha, i was vague in my description for a reason. Not trying to come off as a dick, but i cant really explain what i had done....because im not allowed to lol.but it was not the tradition port/polish with valve job, it was all cnc work. As for a price, you will have to call Nick @ dtm. i supplied my own valve train so it affected the price quite a bit.
LOL, are you kidding me??.... ewwww what secrets are you going to give away??....... how their CNC program is written??
Obviously for them to claim 30% there had to be full runner and combustion chamber work.........
Even the top head guys like WCCH eagerly post flow #'s and pictures of their work..... just to show that the money you are spending is legit, and you are getting quality work.....
So if they didn't send a flow sheet, and you are just going by them stating "30% more than stock" then i feel sorry for you..........
#'s dont lie.... post them up or BS
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He is doing top secret government research on evo's that he is in charge of testing, can't be giving out information......
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inspector01;269342 wrote:
He is doing top secret government research on evo's that he is in charge of testing, can't be giving out information......Nope, not this time.
DelSlow;269345 wrote:
zomg Zac stop being a douche
I thought he was 100% correct in his post.
I said "30% over stock" by going with JUST what i was told. I personally, have nothing to prove it. Nick might, Dave probably does, but im not going to go that far out of my way for a forum board memebers satifaction.
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zbrown;269310 wrote:
lol, are you kidding me??.... Ewwww what secrets are you going to give away??....... How their cnc program is written??Obviously for them to claim 30% there had to be full runner and combustion chamber work.........
Even the top head guys like wcch eagerly post flow #'s and pictures of their work..... Just to show that the money you are spending is legit, and you are getting quality work.....
So if they didn't send a flow sheet, and you are just going by them stating "30% more than stock" then i feel sorry for you..........
#'s dont lie.... Post them up or bs
x2 qft
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DelSlow;269446 wrote:
It didn't come with any paper work when you picked up the head?Because i drove to new jersey to pick up a head that was sent out?
no_slow_clap;269445 wrote:
going with JUST what i was told. I personally, have nothing to prove it. Nick might, Dave probably does, but im not going to go that far out of my way for a forum board memebers satifaction.Does this answer your question?
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well, aside from the head drama, I recently aquired a spare rear differential from a evo IX MR that will be going into my car.
Im waiting for my new diff mount bushings to come in. then my current diff will get sent to TRE for a rebuild while i rock the MR diff.
Then its off to the tcase....
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weshole;269679 wrote:
Car should be bad ass indeed.Thank you sir.
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I finally got her tuned today.
made 320/290 on DTM's AWD mustang dyno. Still only 20 psi. Still on the stock cams.
We could only put 20 psi through it because my diverter valve was leaking, and couldnt hold any more. I have a tial Alpha Q on the way, then the real testing starts.
we are going to fully tune it on stock cams to about 30 psi, projected to make about 375/320. Then, tune with the DTM cams to make the comparison.
We want to make it to MIR on may third for a TnT, with a few of the other shop cars.
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Weak... Jk
What do stock turbos evo's make on that dyno with fmic, exhaust, the same mods as you except ur pussy 50 trim.. My eclipse back in the day made 416 hp on about 26psi 110 octane. That was on a PTE 50 trim.
I cant wait to smoke you so I can add you to my killed list.. Just ask joe about our lil race...
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