Perfection
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ugly!
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This whole thread is a troll, but i'll play along
So is Subaru still paying Audi royalty fees? You know, Audi invented 4wd/awd in motorsport, completely re-made the sport of rallying, and in every motorsport where they ran quattro vehicles new rules had to be invented to keep them from dominating. Doesn't Subaru still pay Audi for getting to run along in their shadow?
Oddly enough, the BMW E30 3 series ran in some WRC events, both in M3 and 325i trim. The latter sometimes ran RWD [325i] and sometimes as AWD [325iX]. AFAIK, this was only privateer teams, and they weren't all that successful.
How must Subaru owners feel to be beaten in WRC by Citroen and Peugot? FRENCH cars! French FWD cars that look ridiculous!
Most european car owners don't have the insecurity issues that generally lead someone to go picking fights with other brands of cars. Suffice it to say, anyone that can buy a new BMW could have bought *any *new Subaru instead, and for whatever reason elected not to.
[probably because Subies don't help them bag the big-haired women at the health-club that would be otherwise inaccessible to them].
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thrash;275246 wrote:
How must Subaru owners feel to be beaten in WRC by Citroen and Peugot? FRENCH cars! French FWD cars that look ridiculous!It seems like joo knoe a lots about WRC. Wait just kidding Subaru is no longer participating. For real though my parents are huge into german cars. They are nothing special and cost ten times more to fix. Also simple stuff we have had to order from germany. My moms car sat in the shop for a week waiting for an ignition, and it was like 600$! Before that it was three a/c compressors that just kept not working.
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electrical issues from day one. something BMW will always have
here a psht, there psht, everywhere a psht psht
PVC SQUAD MEMBER #2- 95 CIVIC EX- DD 320whp on a mustang dyno
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I didn't realize that subaru was paying royalties to Audi. Do you have a link to back that up? Not saying they don't, its just the first time I'd heard it and before <u>I</u> repeat it I want to know the source.
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Oh...and I could have afforded a BMW, yet I chose 2 Subarus...why is that I wonder?
/stir /stir /stir
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ihaveaids;275233 wrote:
Reliability, something BMW will never have.?? Really?
That's why edumnds gives 5 out of 5 reliability ratings...
http://www.edmunds.com/used/2004/bmw/3series/100351174/reliability.html
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oh, Subie paying Audi royalties was something i just made up. My claim is that, w.r.t. German cars, Subaru's rally wins are not something to try and lord over German marques in aggregate. (it's true that BMW hasn't had any WRC wins [although they run X5s and X6s in Paris-Dakhar quite frequently].)
After all, in the early 80s, Audi was destroying all comers in motorsports with their newly introduced AWD system [which everyone said wouldn't work on sports cars, blah blah]
As I recall, Subaru was making the 50hp GL wagon.
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GhettoFabulousCRX;275250 wrote:
It seems like joo knoe a lots about WRC. Wait just kidding Subaru is no longer participating.I don't think I've watched WRC since around 2006, when Sebastian Loeb was ruining everyone, Subaru included. I dont think Subaru pullled out when they were winning
They are nothing special and cost ten times more to fix.
Many German car owners disagree. Nobody is making you buy one
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weshole;275264 wrote:
Some of us don't need a car to bag a chick.Right...some of us have motorcycles as well.
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JN210;275276 wrote:
I heard that subaru is going away...is that true?No, they left WRC as a factory team (mostly due to issues with Prodrive according to rumors) but their cars are still used by privateers, etc...
And since subaru was the ONLY car manufacturer last year to increase its sales vs the previous year, I'd say they are still doing something right....being partially owned by Toyota doesn't hurt either.
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GhettoFabulousCRX;275250 wrote:
It seems like joo knoe a lots about WRC. Wait just kidding Subaru is no longer participating. For real though my parents are huge into german cars. They are nothing special and cost ten times more to fix. Also simple stuff we have had to order from germany. My moms car sat in the shop for a week waiting for an ignition, and it was like 600$! Before that it was three a/c compressors that just kept not working.What kind of car are we talking about?
All german cars are not created equal.
Talking about how expensive parts are... from a dude with a TT 300zx lol
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wow the m5 is my dream car, i only wish i was rich
'07 Mercedies Benz C350 4matic
'05 Kenworth W900S
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Jim;275280 wrote:
What kind of car are we talking about?All german cars are not created equal.
Talking about how expensive parts are... from a dude with a TT 300zx lol
At the moment my dad drives a taureg and my mom drives an A6. They have always been into german/euro cars. We have owned a lot of VW's, saabs, audis. Funny thing is my dad really wants a WRX haha. A week after my mom bought the A6 one of the LEDs behind the dash went out. After taking it to a couple places around town and a few refusing to work on it they said "i dunno buy a new cluster" She just ended up dealing with it because it was well over a grand. Then the ignition went out three times, same deal with the a/c compressor. Nothing is under a grand to fix it's redic. Both are amazing in the snow and comfy. Just not worth it IMO. I don't give a shit what you spend your money on. Lord knows not everyone wants to have a Z they have to work on all the time either haha. Thinking your car makes you cooler than everyone else is pretty stupid though.
Z parts do not compare to euro parts sorry.
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GhettoFabulousCRX;275292 wrote:
At the moment my dad drives a taureg and my mom drives an A6. They have always been into german/euro cars. We have owned a lot of VW's, saabs, audis. Funny thing is my dad really wants a WRX haha. A week after my mom bought the A6 one of the LEDs behind the dash went out. After taking it to a couple places around town and a few refusing to work on it they said "i dunno buy a new cluster" She just ended up dealing with it because it was well over a grand. Then the ignition went out three times, same deal with the a/c compressor. Nothing is under a grand to fix it's redic. Both are amazing in the snow and comfy. Just not worth it IMO. I don't give a shit what you spend your money on. Lord knows not everyone wants to have a Z they have to work on all the time either haha. Thinking your car makes you cooler than everyone else is pretty stupid though.Z parts do not compare to euro parts sorry.
Your Z is considerably older, compare maybe a 350z or a G35 parts to the generation they are driving. Audi / VW are NOT known for reliability. My Merc was unreliable.
BMW FTW lol
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