2010 m3 gts..wow
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I think what he's getting at Is that in each class, let's take midsize sedans, like the 3 series and accord for example, the German made cars are better on the track. However that same arguement applies to the other side of the equation if we change the class, 370Z versus 1 series. So umm yeah what are you talking about?
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DelSlow;293413 wrote:
What cars? Lets see some info since we can all agree on that, right?I am not going to waste my life compiling 0-60 times on every single European car along with all the Jap cars..> But I can PROMISE you it wouldnt be a competition.
Stop arguing.
The only reason they do this is because they cost more.
But once again the fact remains: Euro cars are better track cars from the FACTORY in general
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Eurofan;293408 wrote:
Touche' but let's keep the info relevant to our country/region.Factory vs factory euros win. 95% of the time. That being said they do it a premium cost the majority of the time, but the fact still remains: euros are better track cars.
like a premium $300 oil change:)
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Eurofan;293386 wrote:
<u>A yuppie douche bag hu??? </u> yes you areThe vast majority of hondas are NOT track cars. The **majority **of Euro cars are much more able on tracks. There is no arguing that.. Quit being a jackass.
lmao.. two closely priced choices
honda has had a race trim model of almost every model they make for almost 40 years. with huge factory options to make them even more race inspired. accordR civicR integraR nsxrr s2000cr the only thing they dont have is a crv, pilot, and odyssey from their "truck" category.
what majority of race inpired vehicles does vw and friends have over honda? yes some of them have a SUPERCAR form of a few vehicles. but not that youll find driving around with any majority. especially in the U.S.
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SPANISH-RICE;293420 wrote:
lmao.. two closely priced choiceshonda has had a race trim model of almost every model they make for almost 40 years. with huge factory options to make them even more race inspired. accordR civicR integraR nsxrr s2000cr the only thing they dont have is a crv, pilot, and odyssey from their "truck" category.
what majority of race inpired vehicles does vw and friends have over honda? yes some of them have a SUPERCAR form of a few vehicles. but not that youll find driving around with any majority. especially in the U.S.
Take a look at the bmw x5m the x6m.... The M3, the m5, the m6.... The s4, s5, rs6.... Lol just stop.
Like I have been saying. They do this at double the cost...
But the fact still remains: Euro cars are better on the track
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Eurofan;293423 wrote:
But the **fact **still remains: Euro cars are better on the trackWhy? Because you think the track times are better? Still don't see a __ vs. ___ (that accounts for most Euro cars) comparison to back up what you say. Here ill start;
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1990 BMW E30 M3**
195 hp
170 ft/lbs.
143mph top speed
5.5 sec (0-50)2006 Ford GT
550 hp
500 ft/lbs.
205mph top speed
3.3 sec (0-60)Well people think its pretty obviously that Euro cars blow. Right?
To me sounds like you're just a eUrO fan boi that is just blabbing an opinion?
But the fact still remains: Eurofan is a yuppie.
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Eurofan;293423 wrote:
Take a look at the bmw x5m the x6m.... The M3, the m5, the m6.... The s4, s5, rs6.... Lol just stop.Like I have been saying. They do this at double the cost...
But the fact still remains: Euro cars are better on the track
how is that majority? where are your numbers for our questions?
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Lol.. You guys are not looking at this right...
I am not talking about just the big hyped up cars...
I am talking about the base model cars vs base model cars
The Audi a4
The BMW 128/328i
The Merc c-class
The Saab 9-3's
VS
The Honda Civics
The Toyota corollas
The Nissan altima 2.5's
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Eurofan;293452 wrote:
Lol.. You guys are not looking at this right...I am not talking about just the big hyped up cars...
I am talking about the base model cars vs base model cars
The Audi a4
The BMW 128/328i
The Merc c-class
The Saab 9-3's
VS
The Honda Civics
The Toyota corollas
The Nissan altima 2.5's
Ect ect.HAHAHA you have to be half fucking retarded?! euro luxury cars versus japanese economy cars? and even then a base model a4, or bmw 128 would get shit stomped by even a base model accord. base model A4 makes what? 140 whp? and its a boat? race inspiring!im almost willing to bet a honda odyssey would beat those cars listed in a road course.
how about you start comparing comparably prices cars if youre going to bring bmw, audi, and saab into it. acura, lexus, infinity? otherwise id be comparing honda,toyota, and nissan to say... vw bugs, fiat panda, citreon c1
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PVC SQUAD MEMBER #2- 95 CIVIC EX- DD 320whp on a mustang dyno
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SPANISH-RICE;293505 wrote:
HAHAHA you have to be half fucking retarded?! euro luxury cars versus japanese economy cars? and even then a base model a4, or bmw 128 would get shit stomped by even a base model accord. base model A4 makes what? 140 whp? and its a boat? race inspiring!im almost willing to bet a honda odyssey would beat those cars listed in a road course.how about you start comparing comparably prices cars if youre going to bring bmw, audi, and saab into it. acura, lexus, infinity? otherwise id be comparing honda,toyota, and nissan to say... vw bugs, fiat panda, citreon c1
You're not listening to me... If you were to take every single european car and every single JDM car and compare them on all counts... I PROMISE YOU the European cars would have the upper hand
Yes the STI is a beast.. Yes the Evo is a beast.... Yes the lexus IS-F is a beast.. But For every one of those there are 10 European cars that are just as good if not better than them performance wise
THAT BEING SAID, they are able to do this because of the price tag...
Just stop arguing and realize this.
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Eurofan;293507 wrote:
You're not listening to me... If you were to take every single european car and every single JDM car and compare them on all counts... I PROMISE YOU the European cars would have the upper handYes the STI is a beast.. Yes the Evo is a beast.... Yes the lexus IS-F is a beast.. But For every one of those there are 10 European cars that are just as good if not better than them performance wise
THAT BEING SAID, they are able to do this because of the price tag...
Just stop arguing and realize this.
Really, yugo, smart, renault, alfa romeo, ect.... couldn't hold it's own with a factory ford taurus......
dude you don't even get it, the euro cars that are very abundant are for the most part shitty as far as "sporty" driving is concerned. Yet you don't understand that.
Shit even euro cop cars are pathetic compared to us cop cars
or lets look at white vans which are pretty much there version of the f150 or chevy 1500, wre pathetic and would get stomped.
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DrifterExtreme;293509 wrote:
Really, yugo, smart, renault, alfa romeo, ect.... couldn't hold it's own with a factory ford taurus......dude you don't even get it, the euro cars that are very abundant are for the most part shitty as far as "sporty" driving is concerned. Yet you don't understand that.
Shit even euro cop cars are pathetic compared to us cop cars
or lets look at white vans which are pretty much there version of the f150 or chevy 1500, wre pathetic and would get stomped.
Lol. You must of not read my previous post
Keep the info relevant to our region/country
In AMERICA European cars are for the MOST PART Faster than JDM cars.
Youre all in denial
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Eurofan;293512 wrote:
Lol. You must of not read my previous postKeep the info relevant to our region/country
In AMERICA European cars are for the MOST PART Faster than JDM cars.
Youre all in denial
nope i'm just taking your retarded logic and using it against you.
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