Who's best for cable and internet?
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Jim;297338 wrote:
Holy shit?!??! 1GB a MONTH???!? wtf?
cable one website wrote:
For Economy Internet level, usage over initial 1 GB monthly limit will automatically incur charges. $10 will be charged for each additional incremental 1 GB. Only usage between 12 noon and 12 midnight counts against allocation. See AUP for details.It really is sad.
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Jim;297338 wrote:
FCC Regulating bandwidth? Maybe limiting radio spectrum but I've never heard of regulating bandwith?Let me rephrase: We are required to provide 1mbps down per our FCC licensing and we are required to allocate for "x" amount of users. If we provide service at 100% capacity we would only be able to provide ~1mbps speeds w/ no headroom, so basically we are limited indirectly to 1mbps.
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Qwest, I have the best high speed internet available and with the wireless router and cable my bill comes to $43.99 a month. and if you switch you sign a 2 year cantract that willc garuntee that your price wont go up for 2 years.... i have no complaints
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Jim;297338 wrote:
1mbps will only get you like 100K of downstream data... I'm suprised you can stream youtube at all at. You'll get faster speeds through your EVDO phone then 1mbps.I should rephrase that...you can't really stream, it's more like load, hit pause and wait 5 min for the video to be playable, then watch.
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Jim;297343 wrote:
It sounds almost criminal... like cell phone provider's who charge per kb.That's another area I've become well versed in as of late. When these providers are charging that it is because that is what they have to pay other providers when on their network....I'll explain later.
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s13coupe;297349 wrote:
Qwest, I have the best high speed internet available and with the wireless router and cable my bill comes to $43.99 a month. and if you switch you sign a 2 year cantract that willc garuntee that your price wont go up for 2 years.... i have no complaints1.5mbps? I have complaints just looking at that number.
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PSiedTSi;297356 wrote:
1.5mbps? I have complaints just looking at that number.Agreed. I'll try and get some updated info for you guys as to what our rates are based on mbps. Of course location will factor into what is actually going to be available (just like it is for EVERY DSL provider)
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Trafik Jamz;297354 wrote:
That's another area I've become well versed in as of late. When these providers are charging that it is because that is what they have to pay other providers when on their network....I'll explain later.ideaone is no different then midco or cable one in this regards. None of the 3 are tier1 providers.
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integra_gsr98;297381 wrote:
ideaone is no different then midco or cable one in this regards. None of the 3 are tier1 providers.Do midco and cableone even offer cell phone service? You are right that our cell phone service is basically reselling the VZW service, usually at a lower price (especially for business customers...saving Robert Gibb & Sons $700/mo on their cell phones vs Verizon for example) and with earlier nights/weekends (start @ 7 vs 9) but the area we get our butt kicked by VZW is with tethering to your phone. VZW charges us for every KB that our customers use while tethered...and of course we charge the customer for it as well. Untethered you have unlimited data w/ our plans. We also offer air cards for our customers who want to use their laptops anywhere we have coverage.
Now for phone/internet service IdeaOne, Midco, Cableone are all CLEC's (Competitive Local Exchange Carrier) and Qwest is the ILEC (Incumbent Local Exchange Carrier). IdeaOne acts more like an ILEC than most of the other telco's that offer phone/internet in Fargo in that we lay our own cable and are becoming less and less dependent on Qwest to provide our infrastructure/backbone....and in some areas we are the only provider of DSL/Phone service.
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I have Qwest 7mb service and love it. I've been a qwest dsl customer the entire 6 years i've been in fargo. I am less interested in raw speed and moreso in a company and AUP that doesn't actively work against my interests. I want an unfiltered, unshaped pipe and that is precisely what I get. No port restrictions, no dns hijacking, no traffic shaping, no bandwidth caps, no rate limiting, no bullshit.
I do have a question for TJ -- how is IdeaOne providing DSL service in SW fargo where qwest doesn't? Is there a switch and/or DSLAM there that IdeaOne operates? What is its egress?
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thrash;297475 wrote:
I have Qwest 7mb service and love it. I've been a qwest dsl customer the entire 6 years i've been in fargo. I am less interested in raw speed and moreso in a company and AUP that doesn't actively work against my interests. I want an unfiltered, unshaped pipe and that is precisely what I get. No port restrictions, no dns hijacking, no traffic shaping, no bandwidth caps, no rate limiting, no bullshit.I do have a question for TJ -- how is IdeaOne providing DSL service in SW fargo where qwest doesn't? Is there a switch and/or DSLAM there that IdeaOne operates? What is its egress?
The first paragraph sounds just like the way IdeaOne/Midco operate.
As for the question: We have our CO located south and west of the interstate (along the road that goes south of Flying J to Microsoft) and our internet pipe that we use to provide internet across our network of copper & fiber comes into that point. From there we branch our w/ DSLAMS and other switches as needed to cover various different areas (this is the area that I'm not 100% well versed in what does what and why equipment "A" can provide a given bandwidth and equipment "B" can do more or less than "A"....that's why I have an office full of techs/geeks)
Our "basic" DSL package for consumers is a 10 by 2 connection for $30/month....IF you are on our copper/fiber OR if the Qwest loop that we'd have to use is capable of handling those speeds.
I hope that answers your questions.
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Trafik Jamz;297389 wrote:
Do midco and cableone even offer cell phone service? You are right that our cell phone service is basically reselling the VZW service, usually at a lower price (especially for business customers...saving Robert Gibb & Sons $700/mo on their cell phones vs Verizon for example) and with earlier nights/weekends (start @ 7 vs 9) but the area we get our butt kicked by VZW is with tethering to your phone. VZW charges us for every KB that our customers use while tethered...and of course we charge the customer for it as well. Untethered you have unlimited data w/ our plans. We also offer air cards for our customers who want to use their laptops anywhere we have coverage.Now for phone/internet service IdeaOne, Midco, Cableone are all CLEC's (Competitive Local Exchange Carrier) and Qwest is the ILEC (Incumbent Local Exchange Carrier). IdeaOne acts more like an ILEC than most of the other telco's that offer phone/internet in Fargo in that we lay our own cable and are becoming less and less dependent on Qwest to provide our infrastructure/backbone....and in some areas we are the only provider of DSL/Phone service.
What I meant from Tier1 carriers is that IdeaOne does not maintain large scale peering with other providers at any of the NAPs in the US. Ideaone still gets their bandwith from "someone". I.e. Sprint, AT&T, Qwest, etc.
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FYI, some areas that we are service will now be able to purchase 20x2 for $49.99.
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s13coupe;297349 wrote:
Qwest, I have the best high speed internet available and with the wireless router and cable my bill comes to $43.99 a month. and if you switch you sign a 2 year cantract that willc garuntee that your price wont go up for 2 years.... i have no complaintsWe had qwest until we moved and they didn't have internet service in that area (over by Bluemont Lakes, which they told us they did). They let us drop internet without a cancel fee and just have Direct tv but the billing was so screwed up neither would let us pay the bill over the phone/internet but both were sending bills. We had to go to the mall to pay.
Since we moved again we now have just Direct Tv and the digital is horrible slow. Had Dish Network before which had FSN but I'd rather have slow Direct Tv and have the Speed channel.
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by slow DirectTV I assume you mean their internet?
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Just got word of another promo we have going on (sorry for turning this into a commercial) but right now if you have our internet service AND DirectTV/Dish through us, we will knock an additional $15/month off your internet bill....so in reality you could have (up to...depending on location) 10mbps/2mbps for $14.99 if you sign up for DTV/Dish with us at regular price.....AND there is no setup fee for bundled packages like that.
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I'm just passing on residential stuff as I find out about it...I normally don't work on that side of the biz.
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