Introducing 3M Di Noc Carbon Fiber Film
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wa2fastcamaro;312872 wrote:
so how does it hold up to the elements and how easy would it peal? will edges lift very easily by themselves. Whats the life of it being outside in the elements all the time, and in direct sunlight for extended periods of time?I called 3M to ask this exact question, and the gentleman stated 3M does not offer a defined warranty for the product, due to the many factors that need to be taken for the installation. From surface material (wood/metal/plastic), to the cleansing of the product (degreasing), to adhesive primer used or not, to the elements it will be subjected too (AZ sun compared to ND sun, and ND winter compared to AZ winter). He said for a vehicle that sees daily sun/uv, he would suggest ~5 years. For interior applications that do not see daily sun or uv, he said ~12 years.
On applications that we do at the shop, we have the appropriate priming/cleansing/application techniques to ensure the edges stay down, and the material looks as it should for years.
If you would like a small sample to bring with you to install on something to test the durability, stop into the shop. I have a bunch of dash pieces on display to check out the versatility as well.
Another option to extend the life of the material, is to clear it. This has been done on many applications, and takes away the 'dry' carbon look, and creates a typical carbon look. If you got the piece you are looking to cover cleared with a UV inhibitor, I don't see what this wouldn't last forever.
- Jason
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tntmstr;312873 wrote:
I called 3M to ask this exact question, and the gentleman stated 3M does not offer a defined warranty for the product, due to the many factors that need to be taken for the installation. From surface material (wood/metal/plastic), to the cleansing of the product (degreasing), to adhesive primer used or not, to the elements it will be subjected too (AZ sun compared to ND sun, and ND winter compared to AZ winter). He said for a vehicle that sees daily sun/uv, he would suggest ~5 years. For interior applications that do not see daily sun or uv, he said ~12 years.On applications that we do at the shop, we have the appropriate priming/cleansing/application techniques to ensure the edges stay down, and the material looks as it should for years.
If you would like a small sample to bring with you to install on something to test the durability, stop into the shop. I have a bunch of dash pieces on display to check out the versatility as well.
Another option to extend the life of the material, is to clear it. This has been done on many applications, and takes away the 'dry' carbon look, and creates a typical carbon look. If you got the piece you are looking to cover cleared with a UV inhibitor, I don't see what this wouldn't last forever.
- Jason
very cool stuff, defiantly has peaked my interest. I like the the look of carbon parts without actually having them carbon. I will be considering this on my future projects.
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wa2fastcamaro;312874 wrote:
very cool stuff, defiantly has peaked my interest. I like the the look of carbon parts without actually having them carbon. I will be considering this on my future projects.This is what made us excited as well. You can have something that TRULY looks carbon, with oem fitment on hood/fenders/etc... Even the best carbon has its drawback with fitment. Although you won't be saving any weight, how many carbon body panels have been purchased 100% to save weight?
- Jason
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How permanent would you consider thsi if i wanted to take it off of something at a later date? and is it all considered a skin irritant for like a shift knob or something? all i can think of when i see this is like fiberglass headerwrap
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SPANISH-RICE;312878 wrote:
How permanent would you consider thsi if i wanted to take it off of something at a later date? and is it all considered a skin irritant for like a shift knob or something? all i can think of when i see this is like fiberglass headerwrapIt is pretty aggressive, but can be removed.
It feels very soft, come get a little piece of it... Its awesome.
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yeah that stuff is crazy.. Jason showed me a lil demo of it and then made it into a ball, heated it up then BAM back to normal... cant wait to get some of that on my car
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The product can withstand sun and wet. To install- spray some 3M adhesive, and that stuff can be removed very easily. $20 for 12x12 is a very good price.
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Damn that looks really good. Could you PM me the price of a piece large enough to do a CRX hood and a separate price of how much it would be for install?
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Bassplayer;312885 wrote:
Damn that looks really good. Could you PM me the price of a piece large enough to do a CRX hood and a separate price of how much it would be for install?PM me what size the widest and tallest parts of the hood are so I can gauge how much you will need. First few hoods/roof/trunks I do will get a hot deal.
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I'm probably going to have my taillights done up with that stuff. Looks very cool.
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Eurofan;312903 wrote:
I would imagine it would leave remnaints all over once you wanted to take it off hu?Not to sound arrogant, but I don't know why you would want to take it off to sell it? It can be removed, and if it had been on for awhile, may require some good quality adhesive remover (3m General Adhesive is bomb), but it is not a permanent install...unless you want it to be.
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tntmstr;312905 wrote:
Not to sound arrogant, but I don't know why you would want to take it off to sell it? It can be removed, and if it had been on for awhile, may require some good quality adhesive remover (3m General Adhesive is bomb), but it is not a permanent install...unless you want it to be.Because on a normal 3er like mine, I dont think most buyers are reallly looking for that agressive, altheletic, boy racer look that this wrap will give you. If I had an m3 or something a bit more performance orientated I wouldnt think twice (they even offer it from the factory). In my opinion, a stock car is a bit easier to sell than something that has a few minor mods.
Just think about it
I still think the stuff looks amazing. Heres some more pictures of the fabric I found on Bimmerpost. This is the same 3m product as you supply Jason. Some pretty creative uses here.... Looks like you can pretty much wrap anything. I am shocked at how OE/clean the stuff looks once its finished. Great product.
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Eurofan;312916 wrote:
Because on a normal 3er like mine, I dont think most buyers are reallly looking for that agressive, altheletic, boy racer look that this wrap will give you. If I had an m3 or something a bit more performance orientated I wouldnt think twice (they even offer it from the factory). In my opinion, a stock car is a bit easier to sell than something that has a few minor mods.Just think about it
I still think the stuff looks amazing. Heres some more pictures of the fabric I found on Bimmerpost. This is the same 3m product as you supply Jason. Some pretty creative uses here.... Looks like you can pretty much wrap anything. I am shocked at how OE/clean the stuff looks once its finished. Great product.
Man that stuff looks great on those bimmers!
I see your point....I guess my feelings are that I see this stuff done with crap material on all kinds of vehicles (from carbon to woodgrain), and simply feel that the general public appreciate a 'style' vs unpainted plastic. I don't see or do a lot with BMW's so perhaps that crowd is different.
- Jason
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can you take a sample piece and wrap my phone? lol
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