Eclipse or Alpine?
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darkelvis wrote:
Kiss my ass
which cheek? you really need to relax man. i didnt say you didn't know anything. I made no personal attack at your knowledge in any shape or form. I simply said that there are more than liekly a few people on this board that know a little more about car audiob than you... People who have owned shops for 10 years, people who do custom CF work better than any ive ever seen, people who have the fastest leased cars in the world...etc...I'm not sticking my foot in my mouth, im just trying to help you pull the sand out of your ass and get that nose angled down a little bit more, because you are not the almighty god of car stereos. -
wannabe wrote:
I'm not sticking my foot in my mouth, im just trying to help you pull the sand out of your ass and get that nose angled down a little bit more, because you are not the almighty god of car stereos."Hes proving hes not ameature here folks, having worked the jaw for two rounds and making his mark hes concentrating on the body for the KO!"
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to be fair, I am not the god of car stereos either....and its fastest leased WRX, not leased car. I haven't done a lot w/ CF, caleb did TRE's car...but I have played w/ it a bit (CF not TRE's car)
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Wannabe: I am relaxed, I just got a little pissed because everyone jumped on my case for saying "neither, both are crap (IMO)" no one seemed to catch that last part.
tjamz wrote:
The flip side of that is that you wouldn't be putting down the Eclipse subwoofers if you knew as much as you say you do. Eclipse makes damn good subwoofers. So does Audiobahn. Both have their strengths and weaknesses.I'm going with what I know of them, last time I gave Eclipse a shot was quite a while ago and to me they were crap (alpine I will never touch again, I'm not even getting into that here). True, all subs have strengths and weaknesses, If I had my choice I would get rid of the audiobahns (which can't take nearly as much power as the company says-weakness, and don't like hitting higher bass notes-again, weakness) and get the now discontinued diamond audio mac daddy's.
But for what I paid for them, I'll keep them for a while (i got one hell of a deal).
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Which series of Eclipse did you try out? Not trying to flame here, but my personal experience is that their top of the line sub (I forget which model/series it is) has been superb. I'm sure that anyone that has heard Taylor's (TRE) car would agree with me...his car sounds great considering it has a 15" sub, its musical enough that you'd think it was 4 8" subs and loud enough that you'd think it was 2 15" subs. Hats off to Caleb @ Type-R for the install on that.
Also, which series of Audiobahn do you have? That would make all the difference as well. As for power handling, I've not had an issue w/ Audiobahn not handling their rated power in a proper sized sealed enclosure. Ported enclosures don't do as well as their sealed counterparts on power handling, so if its in a ported, that might be why it isn't sounding right at high power. Also, if its ported you don't want to be throwing gobs of power at it below its F3 point as that WILL damage the sub. A good subsonic filter can take care of that however. I've not heard of any subs having problems w/ upper bass frequencies...assuming you mean around 60 to 80 Hz. Anything above 80 Hz should be handled by the midbass drivers anyway so as not to pull the soundstage to the rear of the vehicle.
I do agree somewhat that Alpine subs aren't something I'd personally buy either...but they are hard to beat for the price at times. Alpine makes nice head units and amplifiers, but their speakers have always left me wanting a bit more from them (actually, just about any company that makes a head unit, or rather is known for their head units, has left me wanting more from their speakers and subs....except Eclipse)
Another interesting point is that A LOT of companies don't make their own speakers, but rather design them and have them made by another company. Vifa for example makes a lot of speakers for other companies (including some, if not all of the eclipse lineup). I guess if I had to pick my favorite sub it would be the Dynaudio MW190. Expensive, but worth it.
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TRE wrote:
CF is a bastord without an oven, i can promise you all that.Yup. w/o a vacuum system and oven, they are a BITCH.
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Alpine hands down, never heard a band thump out of a alpine
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bad thump sorry for spelling
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