Tufte in The Forum
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tjamz wrote:
I can't tell you how many times I've had muscle cars and pickups rev on me in parking lots and at stop lights (literally every time I drive my car). This shit has to stop too. FWIW, I should have been more clear, I hear PLENTY of V8's at night by my house too, not just "speed racers."Maybe I should start "looking out for them" with their modified exhausts and whatnot and making phone calls to the police w/ license plate numbers or even vague descriptions about cars racing by my house at night....
I'm not pissed that they're cracking down, I'm pissed that they're profiling a specific type of car when obviously its not just one style or another.
If you sign a complaint, these american muscle jerks that you speak of can/ will recieve exhibition driving tickets. Matt Groshun got one in his hatch, and was pulled over 3 days after the person had filed a complaint, and given a ticket for it. Went to court(i believe) and lost. Either way I know he had to pay for it. I am going to rag on my dad to write a letter to the editor and the fargo pd. I encourage everyone to have as many people as possible let the local press/state know how we feel. -
cavalier_babe wrote:
I'm sorry, but that is such bullshit, they won't target anyone else but the import/tuners. they don't care about motorcyles, trucks, and their muscle cars. this town is seriously going to hell!!! FUCK cops.... they are pretty much "trying" to take everything away from usCould you, please, just once, make a post that is semi-intelligent? Please?
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You know. They shouldnt be able to pull us over for loud exhaust if they dont have a specific db level we cant go over. When shit like this is up to the "cops Disgression", they will hand out tickets left and right to us "speed racers" and non to the muscle cars or trucks. They really need a db limit here if they are goin to do this. Also, this is going to just get worse and they will probably be inspecting our cars for illegal items such as test pipes.
I also think that the police are not educated about the scene very well if at all. I think there needs to be some sort of a meeting with the police and some of the higher tuners(tufte, shane, caleb, and the older guys) to help educate them.
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harwood39 wrote:
You know. They shouldnt be able to pull us over for loud exhaust if they dont have a specific db level we cant go over. When shit like this is up to the "cops Disgression", they will hand out tickets left and right to us "speed racers" and non to the muscle cars or trucks. They really need a db limit here if they are goin to do this. Also, this is going to just get worse and they will probably be inspecting our cars for illegal items such as test pipes.I also think that the police are not educated about the scene very well if at all. I think there needs to be some sort of a meeting with the police and some of the higher tuners(tufte, shane, caleb, and the older guys) to help educate them.
I honestly think that if you voiced your opinion to these shops,, they will not only back us, but come along for the ride to the bottom of this ridiculous situation. If it was a small town, where everyone knew the police personally, it wouldn't be so bad. But when we have(even 2 or 3) people out every night ricing around at rev limiter, we will keep gettin profiled because to them, we are all the same. for example: In there eyes, Stephen Bradley uses his car the same exact way frietag does(just to throw out 2 extremes). It helps that the v-dub/sti club went into hibernation for the winter, but still, when you get pulled over for doing 70 plus in a 30, do you really expect that they will happen to forget that it was a hatchback, and not look for the same little blue booger, or cars like it, in the future? so please, everyone who can and probably already have been profiled as a "speed racer, keep it down from now on, or atleast until 3 fast 3 furious comes out. -
Alot of this thread makes sense, alot of it doesn't..........what would be awesome, is if everyone could drive like a relatively normal person, and doesn't do anything that could make your exhaust be considered, loud and obtrusive......that simple, then we could prove a point.
Just my .02
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harwood39 wrote:
You know. They shouldnt be able to pull us over for loud exhaust if they dont have a specific db level we cant go over. When shit like this is up to the "cops Disgression", they will hand out tickets left and right to us "speed racers" and non to the muscle cars or trucks. They really need a db limit here if they are goin to do this. Also, this is going to just get worse and they will probably be inspecting our cars for illegal items such as test pipes.I also think that the police are not educated about the scene very well if at all. I think there needs to be some sort of a meeting with the police and some of the higher tuners(tufte, shane, caleb, and the older guys) to help educate them.
If you think the ticket is bullshit, take it to court and challenge it. Thats what the system is there for. What basis do you have for the claims that police officers are not educated about the scene? They get complaints about people driving like jackasses, and there are a lot of those people, so they have to respond.
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All this shit about exhaust, and evertime I'm in west acres and happen by abercrombie & fitch I have to hear and smell the shit coming outta there! Now that's the real crime.
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ichibankilla wrote:
All this shit about exhaust, and evertime I'm in west acres and happen by abercrombie & fitch I have to hear and smell the shit coming outta there! Now that's the real crime.
dude, I jam out to abercrombie everytime i'm walking by it in the mall! -
You know, one problem we have that is brought on by ourselves is this. We travel in packs. Its not that we have 1 car w/ an exhaust that drives by....we have 30-60 sometimes, I can see how this would get annoying to people
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harwood39 wrote:
I honestly dont think the Fargo PD is very informed about the import/tuner scene. To them we are just a bunch of ricers."speed racers" get it right....damn
and yeah it sux what they're doin to you guys down there, i know up here in minot NO car with a frt can is as loud as some of those trucks, cars don't make me ears hurt when they rev on it next to my open window as im trying to fuggin drive
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tweak wrote:
NO car with a frt can is as loud as some of those trucks, cars don't make me ears hurt when they rev on it next to my open window as im trying to fuggin driveYou've never been behind my car apparently.
I'm sure Tufte or Nick Thompson will be happy to verify that statement. (my car registered a dB rating of 171.8 @ devils run last year:eek::eek:) -
Yet I don't get hassled except in devils lake....weird.
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We accidentally got stuck behind chuck in the parade, and it was terrible.
Chuck has the worst sounding exhaust of all time. -
tjamz wrote:
You've never been behind my car apparently. I'm sure Tufte or Nick Thompson will be happy to verify that statement. (my car registered a dB rating of 171.8 @ devils run last year:eek::eek:)
chuck i followed you all the way to devils lake and i could hear it over my cars exhaust that echoed in the hatch...it made my ear numb by just following you!! -
also know this. The typical "muscle car" guy that is spoken of is not young, he is an older guy. Older guys cause less problems. There are only a few of us that are actually young. We young guys know we do stupid shit. I'd have to complain about the profiling more than anything, I just don't like it. next thing you know, they are going to be kicking people out of the mall for having purple hair and getting thrown in the fountain by their friends. wait that did happen. To me. It is profiling, we all know it. Lets do something about it. there has been a lot of good advice on 3 different threads now. Let's work together, track it, then deal with it.
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isn't profiling supposed to be illegal too? so much for that... and I know I've seen older people drive their muscle cars sometimes hot rodding around, but they won't get in trouble I'm sure, cause they aren't younger.. it's funny how they have to pick on a certain "group" with the exaust
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