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tjamz wrote:
For the 999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999th time this thread. Noone is complaining that their is such an ordinance, rather they are upset by the way law enforcement has stated PUBLICLY that they are going to target modified imports.Unless Fargo is waaaaaay different than any other town in the Midwest, 90% + of the loud annoying cars out there are imports. Let's face it, even sporty domestics don't have loud piping on them most of the time, and loud trucks make up maybe 7% of the rest of the loudness. The problem resides with import cars, no matter how many times it is said "but this one time I saw a truck/Camaro/etc that was loud!!111".
Let's complain next that we are targeting airport bomb searches at Muslims instead of 40 year old white women.
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Let's complain next that we are targeting airport bomb searches at Muslims instead of 40 year old white women.[/QUOTE]
as a matter of fact i have a big problem with that...
are you going to say that because my father is indian he is a worthless drunk now too? how about irish people, everybody knows that irish people love to drink. stop fucking generalizing groups of people who share interests especially a whole race of people. If you have a problem with every single muslim person in the world because of what happened to our country then I feel bad for you. backwards racist rednecks are a bigger problem then noisy speed racers.. they should fine you for being ignorant.
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PSiedTSi wrote:
no i have lived here all my life and i shit you not prolly like 75%+ of the chevy pickups around here have straight pipes...i mean its almost so common that whenever i see a truck i can almost guarantee it has loud ass exhaust on it...would more say maybe 50% have exhausts. and the mojority are very loud
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Stormwalker wrote:
Unless Fargo is waaaaaay different than any other town in the Midwest, 90% + of the loud annoying cars out there are imports. Let's face it, even sporty domestics don't have loud piping on them most of the time, and loud trucks make up maybe 7% of the rest of the loudness. The problem resides with import cars, no matter how many times it is said "but this one time I saw a truck/Camaro/etc that was loud!!111".Let's complain next that we are targeting airport bomb searches at Muslims instead of 40 year old white women.
You are quite possibly the biggest idiot to ever visit this board (thats saying quite a bit). Loud trucks making up 7% of the loudness of cars in the midwest....BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. I've lived in ND my entire life. When I was an inspector I went around to all these "midwest towns" that you speak of. I'd be willing to bet that the numbers you quoted are quite possibly the other way around....90% being loud muscle cars/trucks whilst the other 10% being loud imports. Have you ever been around a diesel pickup? Their loud AND they stink. I guarantee you at idle/normal driving speeds they are louder than my car. Why do they get a free pass?
AGAIN. I am 10000000000000% ok with them ticketing imports so long as they are also ticketing deserving domestic cars/trucks.
I don't know why I have to explain this shit to you over and over and over again. Yes, we have loud cars. Yes some of us are very deserving of the tickets. BUT so are many other cars. I've NEVER revved my car at a muscle car/pickup, yet they always feel the need to rev me and call me names. I've personally seen 2 vehicles hit other cars while thinking I would race them (once on main by 8th St....guy ran a red and smacked a turning car in his pickup...I never even revved, the other time when I was in my bone stock 1988 Honda Prelude). I gave them no indication that I thought I was fast. I gave them no indication that I thought their car sucked. They just proceded to take off like madmen and got in accidents. I felt sorry for the people they hit, but I sure as fuck don't feel the least bit sorry for the inbred hick motherfuckers that think they are big shit and want to race me in town.
Are you saying that if a camaro/mustang/pickup is loud they shouldn't be ticketed? That since they are in fewer numbers (by your calculations) they should be immune from the laws? If you are, then you may be the dumbest fucktard ever to grace the internet with his presence.
Feel free to ask me what I really think about you sometime.
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92BlackTT wrote:
Let's complain next that we are targeting airport bomb searches at Muslims instead of 40 year old white women.as a matter of fact i have a big problem with that...
are you going to say that because my father is indian he is a worthless drunk now too? how about irish people, everybody knows that irish people love to drink. stop fucking generalizing groups of people who share interests especially a whole race of people. If you have a problem with every single muslim person in the world because of what happened to our country then I feel bad for you. backwards racist rednecks are a bigger problem then noisy speed racers.. they should fine you for being ignorant.[/QUOTE]
PREACH ON BROTHER MITCHEL!!! PRAISE THE LORD!!!
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Looks like 2 completely different viepoints.
First of all: racial profiling. I support it. Basically, because it makes logical sence. Statistically, it is far more likely that a suicide bomber will be...a young to middle aged Muslim male, rather than......an older catholic woman. If there were a situation where someone had a bomb and it needed to be found before it went off, I would have no problem singling out Muslims and searching them first. Most likely, I would find it on one of them. Save your sob stories, this is simply the brutal truth. If you cannot handle it, crawl back under a rock and wrap yourself in a Kerry Edwards bumper sticker telling yourself it will all be okay.
Second of all: Fargo must be different then. I have noticed that in the Twin Cities, there is not really a problem at all with loud exhaust, such a tiny portion of the population has loud cars that it is not an issue (if you go to Porky's on a Saturday night, this statement is hard to believe). Brainerd, on the other hand, has like 2 loud domestic cars, about a dozen loud trucks, and about 49628076509234 loud import cars. I guess I was thinking of Brainerd when I was trying to imagine Fargo. As far as this point goes, I am going to concede it. I have never been to Fargo, and I guess I should not be making any assumptions or judgement calls. But this does not change the point I was making.
I am all for profiling. And that is what it appears the Fargo police are doing. If the majority of loud cars out there were Camaros, well, if I were an officer, I would be looking for Camaros when issuing citations for loud exhaust. If the majority were Civics, then I would be looking for Civics. Let's say more Camaros do. If I were an officer instructed to crack down on the noise, I would pass up on the Civic I see at the stoplight about to take off, and go a couple of blocks over to where I thought I saw a Camaro, because it is more likely the Camaro's exhaust is too loud than the Civic. And vise versa.
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Stormwalker wrote:
First of all: racial profiling. I support it.Let me take a wild guess... your white.
Of course you wouldn't have a problem with it, it doesnt affect you!
If you were from middle eastern decent, you were an everyday normal citzen had nothing to do with anything, and everywhere you went people gave you shit for being a terrorist, or you were always the one being searched, or always the one getting looks from people, how the fuck would you feel?
The reason you support it is because you have no fucking idea what its like to be racially profiled. Me, Im asian. Have I been racially profiled? You bet your fucking life I have.
Tell me how you feel about it, when it happens to you, you dumb fuck.
Untill then, eat my cock. asshole.
I have to go to class I'll finish my response to fucks like you later.
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Since people do not understand the term "racial profiling" (thanks to the media), it is assumed to be the same as prejudice, which it is not.
This is not about "looking at someone a certain way", and this is not directly a racial issue, unless you are at war, like we are. There is a time and place for racial profiling, and I support the correct use of it. This is a highly charged political issue in itself, but when you say you have been racially profiled, Jim, I assume then that it was during World War II? If not, you experienced prejudice (which I am not!), not racial profiling, which is used during wartime.
Racial profiling right now directly affects people of middle eastern decent, and more pointedly, immigrants from the middle east, from countries such as Syria, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, and such. It is unfortunate that the good, honest, hardworking folks from these places that immigrated here have to put up with this. But here is a news flash for you: most of them support racial profiling.But what you are trying to get all worked up about and turn around on me is not racial profiling, you are trying to paint a picture of me being prejudiced, which I am not. K thanks, have a good day.
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stormwalker. you are one sick crackhead, who do you know supports racial profiling of their own race?????? i have been a victim of racial profiling and let me tell you no matter how you look at it or think it, it is bad and it brings out the worst in people and NO there is NO TIME AND PLACE FOR RACIAL PROFILING OK you Fucking Cracker, Honky. (Yes you are correct i am black or should i say Nigger as you would refer to me)
Jim i fill your pain
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Stormwalker wrote:
Since people do not understand the term "racial profiling" (thanks to the media), it is assumed to be the same as prejudice, which it is not.This is not about "looking at someone a certain way", and this is not directly a racial issue, unless you are at war, like we are. There is a time and place for racial profiling, and I support the correct use of it. This is a highly charged political issue in itself, but when you say you have been racially profiled, Jim, I assume then that it was during World War II? If not, you experienced prejudice (which I am not!), not racial profiling, which is used during wartime.
Racial profiling right now directly affects people of middle eastern decent, and more pointedly, immigrants from the middle east, from countries such as Syria, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, and such. It is unfortunate that the good, honest, hardworking folks from these places that immigrated here have to put up with this. But here is a news flash for you: most of them support racial profiling.But what you are trying to get all worked up about and turn around on me is not racial profiling, you are trying to paint a picture of me being prejudiced, which I am not. K thanks, have a good day.
How is looking someone of muslim decent and saying "They have a good likely hood of being terrorist, lets search them at the airport" any less prejudice than looking at a native american and saying "they must be drunks. lets pull them over and give them a sobriety test" or seeing a Mexican and saying "He must sell drugs, lets raid his house"? Just because the terrorists that struck the United States were Middle Eastern doesn't mean that all terrorists are middle eastern. I guess that by your standards, we should just round up all Muslims in this country and hold them in detention camps until this little conflict in Iraq is over.
I'm going to go on a limb here and guess that you are a republican. Sounds like the same political spin they try every time one of the social freedoms of this country is taken away. Don't get me wrong here, I wish the gov't would do more to control who does come into this country. Maybe do some background checks before they're allowed in. Maybe keep track of those who have been here beyond what their Visas allowed for.
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Ngige wrote:
Jim i fill your pain, you know us black folk dont know our english.Frances, you're talking to an Asian-American here....its ENGRISH.
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Ngige wrote:
Jim i fill your pain, you know us black folk dont know our english.thats cause your too poor to go to school and you only sit at home and do drugs...you also project your hood by shooting people....
hes black he must do that stuff...wait i think i just profiled him...sounded pretty prejudice to me....
Francis you da man haha
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PSiedTSi wrote:
thats cause your too poor to go to school and you only sit at home and do drugs...you also project your hood by shooting people....hes black he must do that stuff...wait i think i just profiled him...sounded pretty prejudice to me....
Francis you da man haha
He does have a degree in Engineering.........:)
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