Why Miatas?

[STiSchucky]

harwood39 wrote:
Thats my goal with the civic. thats another reason why im sticking with the d-series, you dont need tons of power to road race, and d-series are cheap to fix.

Anyways, I guess for shits i will thow up what i am doing to my car before spring(end of may)

P29 Pistons(pistons out of a d16a6)
ACL Bearings
Exedy Stage 1 clutch
Road race shifter
FAL Flexite rear 3 windows
Lexan Sunroof Plug
Lexan Roll downs
Falken Azenis tires
D2 full Coil Overs w/ 36 way adjustable dampers
Roll Cage
CF trunk lid
CF gas door
Password 3 Point Front Bar
C-Piller bar
Trunk Floor bar
Sparco Speed seats
Harnesses
Powerstop Drilled/Slotted Front Rotors
EBC brake pads
Rear lower Tie bar
Eibach Sway bars
Energy supsension poly bushings
Billet motor mounts
Password Front Subframe support
Greddy catch can(need due to removed PCV system)
Front lower h-brace
RSR GTII Cat back exhaust
Resonated test pipe
ARC Intake
Aluminum radiator
Road race shifter
Omni Clutch master cyl.
SS Braded brake lines
SS clutch line
Road Race Gear Front lip/splitter
J-s racing cf air duct
Skunk2 Upper front control arms
Skunk2 rear lower arms
Skunk2 upper rear arms
Remove the rest of the interior besides door panels and dash

Thats why this winter is going to be expensive, family is buying me parts for my b-day and x-mas, and all my money is going into it.
Isn't it about that time to make a Civic for sale thread again?

It's almost been 20 days

[Sweet-WRX-Lovin]

RWD + Low Center of Gravity + Short Wheel Base + Lightweight = Street Legal GoKart.

[weshole]

You forgot to mention a rather excellent CHASSIS!

[STiSchucky]

Dont forget the eyebrows

[JohnW]

sorry.. just reminded me of this.

[weshole]

Nice!

[harwood39]

I agree with the gokart thing, Miatas remind me so much of gokarts, oh wait they are, just very fast go karts. haha

[Guest]

weshole wrote:
Noone and I mean NOONE buys a Civic or any other fwd for that matter (modded or not) because of their handling prowess.

I dunno, people buy Mini Cooper S's for that reason wes.

[weshole]

tjamz wrote:
I dunno, people buy Mini Cooper S's for that reason wes.

God DAMNIT! YOUR RIGHT! I retract that statement. Partially.

[LT1]

it was fun driftin in ur car Wes, hahaha....Kirk almost peed his pants.

[weshole]

LT1 wrote:
it was fun driftin in ur car Wes, hahaha....Kirk almost peed his pants.

Ya, I forgot you test drove it. Tell Harwood was up.

[2wheeler]

weshole wrote:
[QUOTE=harwood39]with the right suspension and chassis mods you can get ther rear end out easily like a rear wheel, and it hold the road awsomely.

If your sliding, your wasting momentum.[/QUOTE]
That may be true, but done properly, it is the fastest way around a track.

[weshole]

what's with all the alah camel-jockey giberish on your sig? Is it code? lol.

[harwood39]

2wheeler wrote:
That may be true, but done properly, it is the fastest way around a track.

Exactly. my car slides out because i dont slow down before a corner, its not like i slide it sideways like a drift car, but it goes out a tiny bit. If you dont slow doen through a corner and thats why you slide out thats why its faster.

[aliengotpsi]

I got a civic with good Good suspension and im sure its not even close to nicks miata in handling..

my .02

[Raider]

I was able to race the MazdaSpeed Miata on 4 different road corses...the Miata corners great...it could use a larger turbo but still had great power coming out of the corners...I was amazed how the little car performed

[weshole]

2wheeler wrote:
That may be true, but done properly, it is the fastest way around a track.

If I pushed my car to the point of sliding in a corner, (pushing it beyond the edge and not showboating) I would spin around at least once. Maybe I could pull out of it but it shure as hell wouldn't be fast. Setting yourself up properly to execute the corner, hitting the apex just right, and exiting the corner without loosing grip or momentum is the fastest way around a track.

If sliding was the fastest way around, then Michael Schumacher,Jeff gordon, And Miguel Duhamel would be the drift kings. That's my belief.

[pin]

I can't claim to have any real education in track driving, but damn, I thought everyone knew that sliding is not the quickest way around a corner. If you're sliding the tires aren't making the car move in the direction it's pointed, and it's wasted energy.

[weshole]

That's what I was taught also.

[2wheeler]

weshole wrote:
If I pushed my car to the point of sliding in a corner, (pushing it beyond the edge and not showboating) I would spin around at least once. Maybe I could pull out of it but it shure as hell wouldn't be fast. Setting yourself up properly to execute the corner, hitting the apex just right, and exiting the corner without loosing grip or momentum is the fastest way around a track.

If sliding was the fastest way around, then Michael Schumacher,Jeff gordon, And Miguel Duhamel would be the drift kings. That's my belief.
Ah, ah, ah....now you're contradicting yourself. Miguel Duhamel DOES slide corners, as do all exceptional superbike riders. Watch a MotoGP or World Superbike race, they set themselves up for corners by "drifting" the rear end of the bike.......CAUSE ITS FASTER....the lap times have proven it. Schumacher and Gordon don't need to drift cause they have such large contact patches. If you can go into a corner at 500MPH, and have the suspension and tires to hold it, why slide? Bikes have maybe 2-5 square inches to put down 200-240HP, so sliding is faster. This is similar to what we see at local autocross events....tires and tracks that cant hold the cars' power. Shane won the Minot autocross in a stock(other than intake/cat back) S2000. He was one of the only guys that could slide the car effectively. He beat STis, Civics, other RWDs and other S2000s.

I agree with what you said above, in theory. Ya know, perfect world type stuff. But in real world racing, if your car can't hold the power, IMO, you can "cheat" the theory and slide.