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    PSI2HI
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    What kind of vehicle?

    "Just because you know it all doesn't mean you can do it all"

    "If you can't afford to do it right the first time can you afford to do it a second time?"

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      a 2.4 out of a stratus/caravan pt crusier motor for a motor swap, just lookn to get the machine work done locally

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        weshole
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        It sounds like the stats you request for machine work were straight out of a magazine ad/article. I find it VERY hard to believe that a person would know sooooo much about what he wants without knowing whom locally, can do the job.

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          PSiedTSi
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          lilredcar wrote:
          new to motor build ups so bear w me

          exactly why i asked why you were gonna bore it when it just makes the walls thinner...theres a reason people only bore when they have to...

          At first I did it for fun, then I realized I made the investment and had to do it!

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          > spanish-rice;237125 wrote:
          > at first i thought the title said beer truck drivers needed... In which case i accidently put my two weeks in at work.

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            you asked what it was so i posted the information that i had avail. to me http://www.southeastperformance.com/ is actually where i got the info from and did i claim to know much about the subject??i think not if u can read you will clearly see that posted,or would it be better to just get the motor sleaved? i believe, and stragiht line spec. is the place to go then?

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              weshole
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              So, is this engine going to be N/A or turbo?

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                a trubo setup is in the motors near future, hahun racecraft btw

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                  weshole
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                  The reason I ask is because if you are going to boost it, you really wont need to port the head at all. Your head will easily support well over 400 whp w/out porting. same goes for boring the block. Now, if you just want to build it up to withstand the power.... Then that's a different story. But the engine in stock form will easily handle boost. The only thing you have to replace is the weak-ass head gasket with a metal one. The things you are asking for are not really necessary if you plan on boosting it.

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                    i dont plan on boring it unless the walls of the donor motor are in poor conition to the point where i cannt hone it out, and i figured sice im going to completly rebuild the whole motor why not do it right the first time and free up somemore hp instead of changing my mind down the road and having to yank the head out at a later date

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                      weshole
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                      Because sometimes you can go overboard on porting and get even less USEABLE power that before porting. It is wise to do the valve job etc. but, I firmly believe that the $$$ spent in doing the full port job is better spent on the real power makers. Case in point, Nick (GSR) who posted on the first page has posted over 500 whp on a non ported head. I don't remember the exact #'s but it was hella big.

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                        PSI2HI
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                        Neon motor for applications over 250whp i'd strongly think about building the bottom end for reliability.

                        "Just because you know it all doesn't mean you can do it all"

                        "If you can't afford to do it right the first time can you afford to do it a second time?"

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                          dubbsy
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                          PSiedTSi wrote:
                          ...theres a reason people only bore when they have to...

                          not necessarily. 🙂

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                            weshole
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                            PSI2HI wrote:
                            Neon motor for applications over 250whp i'd strongly think about building the bottom end for reliability.

                            If the older ones are what is being referred to, then you are right. I may be off a bit but I was thinking of the SRT4 engines.

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                              lilredcar wrote:
                              a 2.4 out of a stratus/caravan pt crusier motor for a motor swap, just lookn to get the machine work done locally

                              So your swapping a 2.4 PT Cruiser / Stratus in to a 1st Gen Neon?

                              You could better use your money by building an RT motor (420a) and turboing that, you'll make much more power, and come out about the same in terms of the money you spend.

                              Plus you could save a bundle and make more power by using already developed products besides hahn for the 420a... There's manifolds and everything by others now. You could start with the right size turbo (instead of a 16g) and make some real power...

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                                aliengotpsi
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                                Noob

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                                  treimche
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                                  Haha 3 pages of posts and not one mention of a machine shop to take his stuff to! Too bad Sturdevant's is gone or I would recommend them.

                                  Troy
                                  2009 Yamaha R1
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                                    alright so i see that like i had originally thought that this site was a waste of time!! no need to reply cuz i wont be on here again , talk shit if you want noob you know nothing u havent done research whatever the story is say it if thats what helps you sleep at the end of the day rock on, btw iPSI2HI- said total rebuild, pertty sure the bottom end is in the motor? hummm u can read crazy things when you actually read the posts instead of catching the last thing and posting on JIM- the 2.4 into the neon puts out 30 more hp and is a fairly straight foward install nothing to complicated so how would the 420 bennefit me 2.4 50 lbs more turbo is a direct fit, a machine shop was that so hard? i didnt think so, ill ship it off else where to get the machine work done, peace 😄

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                                      Jim
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                                      Haha you have no clue, its ok though, you can talk shit about Fargostreet it aint a thang to me.

                                      The funny thing is, you can go ahead and build your motor, port and polish and do whatever the hell your going to spend an arm and a leg on; and then you'll be claiming to make like 400hp with your Stage 10 Port Job, and then you go and race an almost stock DSM and you lose.

                                      Its funny that you admit you know nothing about building motors, do you have any idea who the people on this site are your talking to?

                                      But whatever, get outta hurr cause its a waste of your time being on here.

                                      However, for the record, i guarntee that a built 420a w/ a large turbo on it would SMOKE a 2.4l (common are non turbo PT cruisers / stratus's fast????)

                                      Whatever, btw your banned, becuase people like you tend to come back anyway

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                                        ticklemedaly
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                                        From a professionals point of view, you are using the wrong motor for what you want to do. These motors, along with the 2.0 L neon motors are common for head and gasket problems, and overboaring the bottom end will create even more problems. If you really wanna do something along these lines, go with a SRT4 motor, they dont have the same problems....at least as many....and will be better off in the end for reliability. I know it may be expensive at first, but in the long run, itll be even more expensive with all the repairs you'll run into. Trust me, I have seen waaaaaaay too many of these motors with problems. Why run the risk of having more?

                                        Ry

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                                          naturalbornkeller
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                                          lilredcar wrote:
                                          a trubo setup is in the motors near future, hahun racecraft btw
                                          "Trubo"? Man i love Trubos. They stay crunchy in milk!

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