Fight at mall Rant
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darkelvis wrote:
why did you make 2 threads for this?
It doesn't take a brain surgeon to figure out that he hit the submit thread button twice, does it:icon_scratch:That really sucks about your friend. Twelve weeks with a wired jaw would SUCK! Hope the fucking jawa that did it gets his.
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Even though this is a public forum and what i say could be taken out of context into the form of an actual threat..............i dont care. That sulken or whoever it is should be fucked up. Where criminal justice/the courts fail, street justice previals IMO. Not saying i'd condone it but yeah....
I suppose the best way to put it is to say: Though I don't condone it, if this Sulken kid and his friends got royally effed up, i wouldn't bat an eye in disgust at whoever did it.
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Man, I'm sorry to hear about your friend, that sucks. FWIW, hitting someone with brass knuckles (or Adam Drakes hands as the story goes....) can be considered assault with a deadly weapon and SHOULD put him in adult court instead of Juvy. Even if the guy can't pay for his actions with money, he should still have to do the time in a REAL jail. Send his ass to Bismarck to the state pen instead of juvenile hall or county jail. Even IF your friend is accused of swinging first, the fact that the other guy was in a group of 30 people, was carrying brass knuckles with him in the mall (why would you carry them unless you wanted to fuck someone up?) and took off running after the fight was over should indicate that there was some sort of premeditation on the part of "Sulken" in which case it would be a more serious crime. Tell your buddy to take his ass to court and find a GOOD attorney to represent him. This is both a criminal and civil case as I see it.
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Because they wont fight even because those skinny Turban Ninjas would get there asses handed to them on an even fight. Besides that i guess the other kids( not cody and tavis) were calling the bosnians "sand niggers" and pushing one of them around at school last week. IDK but the fact is that if that were a white kid hitting another white kid, that shit wouldve been in court by Monday morning with the kid in jail by tuesday. Just the fact that all the bosnians have to say is that "Adurka durka, i not know law of U.S., Jihad" And he gets away with it and his attorney claims that its a racist crime against foreigners. PERIOD
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If he called them sand niggers he deserved to get his ass kicked. It's guilty by association in that type of shit, if you hang out with a group of people who push people around, and yell out racist comments when shit hits the fan, if you've been associating with them, why would they draw a distinction between a group who is evidently like that, and a single person.
You call a group of 30 black guys "niggers" and you better run for your life, I dont see the difference.
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Ive been through the same thing except it wasnt me that got the shit kicked outa me it was MY CAR and the police have still done nothing and prolly never will. But like you said if it was 2 white kids it would have been resolved in court on monday and in jail on tuesday! Anywayz sorry to hear about your friend hope he gets better and i hope there will be JUSTICE for those bastards.
"tell the misses that thats how you got the man and thats how you KEEP the man
words to live by from the wise one"
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There had to have been more to provoke a fight then just getting jumped, its a really really rare occassion for a fight like that to break out unprovoked. I mean they could have picked any 6 white guys to jump, why these ones?
Perhaps the full story should be heard before we make judgements, is 30 on 6 unfair? Yeah, but what was actually going on.
Regardless if he's 17 or not, if you beat somebody up badly enough to go to the hospital, and you have a legitimate case, they will get in trouble. If he's a foreigner (as in not a US Citizen) there are certainly reprecussions for breaking the law. People don't just "get away" from it becuase they are "foriegn".
Haha I think it's funny that you are so fucking racist. Generalizing boznians as not respecting the country or the laws of it, is quite the statement to make. You can't group an entire race as acting one way or another. You can make judgements only on individuals.
White kid vs. White kid, the same outcome would have happened; don't fool yourself. You think bosnians actually get off easier from the police then white people do? You've got to be kidding me.
As with any case, ignorance of the law is not an excuse, and noboyd just "gets away with it."
With people calling them Turban Ninjas, making claims about how they are all criminals and don't respect the country, and calling them bin laden (with relation to ji had) (which further shows your ignorance), I can understand perhaps why they would be mad.
If the full story is, they just jumped the 6 people for no reason, then yes, they are a bunch of fucks. I doubt that. Also don't kid yourself that white people have it "rougher" then minorities.
If the kid who got the shit kicked out of him was smart, he'd get a lawyer figure out any kind of legal action he can take, and he'd immediately press charges with the police regardless of the suspected outcome. That is, unless theres more to the story.
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Simply put.. There are a lot of Stereotypes in this scenario..
You may actually think about them getting away w/ a lot, but don't you think for ex: the cops on the streets maybe single them out in some sort?? Just as they do ricers/racers??
I think the main problem is the local legal system in general. Let's say.. Your "shit" got jacked out of your car, and you maybe even catch the guy who did it w/ secure proof.. It more-so strikes me as they only get a slap on the wrist versus any big means of punishment... Probably the following is what happens, in this type of case: a person convicted of the crime has to pay back all damages, etc(restitution) maybe go on probation, community service, and have it on their record.. now here's where the loopholes come in, most ppl who are stealing don't have the funds themselves if they have to pay the restitution back themselves, therefore they can usually just prolong the payments back to a point where it may almost be forgotten about, or what not. everything gets delayed and the seriousness of the matter decreases.... I have had friends who have been victims of this, and also the rather opposite who have been friends w/ the criminal.. (the particular one I am thinking of is a friend who stole $$$ from another friend, large amt.), I don't think he's paid them back in Full yet, and it's been several years. 3+, it took him several things to all add up before he even went to prison, which was only like 8 months, and came out w/ a clean slate.. I don't even think he's on probation anymore. or when he was released..
But the point is, I wouldn't be to biased as stereotyping any race as far as any judicial crime thing goes.. But I don't doubt, the law enforcement doesn't see these stereotypes themselves, and kind of follows them.
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I totally agree with you Jim. The people he was standing by deserved it not cody. Cody had nothing to do with the bosnians that beat him up. Didnt know them or have any confrontation with them previously. It was not right for him to get the beat down. And i am not grouping every bosnian. I have some bosnian, black, asian, indian friends. I am the most unracist person there is. But the fact is, that, everytime you here about something that has to do with some bosnian people, its always the same group of bosnian kids that it is. Doing something stupid and not listening to the law.
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take them to court anyways.
assault with what can be considered a deadly weapon will land them jail time. you're not goin to sit on cloud 9 just cause you were called a name, doesn't give you any right to fuck his jaw up, break somebody nose and crack a rib...ever heard of freedom of speech anyways? Nothing courts can do about that.
tell em to take em to court when they find him.
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brass knuckles are considered a dangerous weapon, and by north dakota law the only people that can carry them are those who have a concealed weapons permit that is valid in north dakota, and im sorry to say, if the kid was 17, he didn't have a concealed weapons permit....just my .02
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thats fucked up....but it doesnt really seem the 30 on 6 or whatever....so who knows what the real story is...
it sounds like the bosnian ran up...punched a couple kids in the face with his brass knuckles then everyone took off except for the 2 on the ground??
So did the othe rpeople just stand and watch or what....i know i wouldnt let one of my friends get his ass kicked without jumping in...
either way he should take him to court for sure....ikm sure his hospital bill will be a shitload.....even if he did punch him first it shouldnt matter...since the bosnian had used a weapon.
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yeah why did they just sit there after the buddy got punched... wouldnt you have chased the guy that hit him or somthing .........so is this what happend he ran up punchd him and ran away the other guys stood there like wtf... as there buddy on the ground has a broken jaw?? dosnt sound right to me...
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Out of all the places, why the mall on a weekend? Stupid high school kids......
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