"Sicko".....just finished watching it..
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It's out for sale too...
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DaveH;193489 wrote:
I didn't know there was anywhere local that would actually carry it. You rented it I assume?
Bought it. Liked it. Wouldn't mind having free health care myself.I especially enjoyed it when Moore GAVE $12,000 to the founder of the largest "I hate Michael Moore" website, because it was going to shutdown. The founder wasn't going to be able to pay to keep it up due to his wife's extravagant health care costs. lol....how poetic.
Keep in mind, I am not a Moore sackrider. I enjoy his films because of how he makes them. I take them with a grain of salt, and thats it. If you haven't seen it, you should. You may learn something you didn't know.
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2wheeler;193528 wrote:
Bought it. Liked it. Wouldn't mind having socialized health care myself.Fixed it for you.
Nothing is free, you pay for it one way or the other. I'd much rather not have the government controlling it as they have a proven track record (ie: the VA Hospitals, etc).
I'll admit, I think Moore is a festering pile of dung. I won't grace his movie with my presence. :icon_cheers:
LOL at Faul!!
DaveH
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StangerBanger96;193483 wrote:
Here are some more informative and useful videos:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=OcIYmtFeE_M
http://youtube.com/watch?v=a1BtzTtKNIcwait... what?
Originally Posted by 00vtec View Post
I take cash or check. True honda owners can hear it in anything no matter what the mods."Imo kick yo ass so hard that candy comes out"
hung like a butterfly but stings like a bee....
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general practitioners there get paid based on how well their patients are doing... they get a bonus if people in their district quit smoking, or lower their colesterol. <- sign me up.
best micheal moore stunt pulled evar...bringing US citizens who VOLUNTEERED at ground zero who cannot afford healthcare or are being denied it(WTF is that?) to cuba where they are given all the tests and proper diagnosis they are being neglected in the US for free.
I dont care if it is a michael moore film about socialized healthcare, an al gore film about global warming or a snoopy film about his secret love affair with marcy, its still interesting to me to hear uncensored opinions from people other then mr riley and dr phil.... no matter how "insane" everyone on here thinks they are.
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24valvenotak;193564 wrote:
general practitioners there get paid based on how well their patients are doing... they get a bonus if people in their district quit smoking, or lower their colesterol. <- sign me up.best micheal moore stunt pulled evar...bringing US citizens who VOLUNTEERED at ground zero who cannot afford healthcare or are being denied it(WTF is that?) to cuba where they are given all the tests and proper diagnosis they are being neglected in the US for free.
I dont care if it is a michael moore film about socialized healthcare, an al gore film about global warming or a snoopy film about his secret love affair with marcy, its still interesting to me to hear uncensored opinions from people other then mr riley and dr phil.... no matter how "insane" everyone on here thinks they are.
x eleventy billion
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The plural of "anecdote" is not "data".
Where's the movie with all the counterpoints... like the illegal immigrant in california, who, when doing a construction job, cut off one of his fingers. He (and the finger) were driven (by ambulance) to a local hospital, who couldn't do the job, and then he was airlifted to another hospital that could. his finger was re-attached and he has full use of his hand again.
The guy didn't even have the right to be here, much less health insurance, much less the ability to pay for it.
Where's the movie that talks about cases like that?
Where's the movie that talks about how some really-high up govt official in canada came to the US to get cancer surgery done? Where's the the movie about the average waiting time in the UK to get to see your basic doctor is now 6 weeks, and for surgery is 6 months or more?
Moore is a political pundit, and not an especially clever one. He wants you to buy what he's selling, and film is the medium he's using to push it.
People that want socilized medicine are just stupid. There's no other way to say it. What government job are you satisfied with? The post office? The department of licensing? The police? The IRS? What government agency at any level actually does a good job?
Now you want those some rocket scientists keeping you alive? Deciding if you need health care or not ? Deciding if you GET health care or not?
People support, sometimes grudgingly, thingsl ike public housing because paying a few bucks to help someone else have a warm place to stay doesn't affect their own housing. They can still live in a nice house that they pay for themselves.
Socialized medicine is different. Moore is asking us to help 10% of the population get better care by having 90% of us get shittier care. People aren't going to like that once they realize that's what's happened.
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24valvenotak;193564 wrote:
I dont care if it is a michael moore film about socialized healthcare, an al gore film about global warming or a snoopy film about his secret love affair with marcy, its still interesting to me to hear uncensored opinions from people other then mr riley and dr phil.... no matter how "insane" everyone on here thinks they are.Thats the beauty of the US, even the insane people have a voice.
To answer Thrash's question... if you were to go to Cuba to make a movie showing the bad parts of their health system, most likely you'd come back in a box.
DaveH
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I havent seen it yet but i will sometime when i dont have to pay to support his nonsense. As full of shit as he is he does do a damn good job of making stupid people follow him, but its not to hard to lead the blind. Take a look at your paycheck now and tell me you like the money you dont recieve, imagine taking more out to pay for the guy on the corner of I94 and 45ST wanting beer money to go to the hospital also.
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91teggy;193601 wrote:
I havent seen it yet but i will sometime when i dont have to pay to support his nonsense. As full of shit as he is he does do a damn good job of making stupid people follow him, but its not to hard to lead the blind. Take a look at your paycheck now and tell me you like the money you dont recieve, imagine taking more out to pay for the guy on the corner of I94 and 45ST wanting beer money to go to the hospital also.I'm watching the movie right now.
I don't have health insurance. I can't afford it. If I get sick, I'm fucked.
You're telling me that I shouldn't be able to see a doctor because I can't afford it?
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Well than get a job with benefits... Why should a couple people work and pay taxes so everyone else has free health care... Why don't we all just make america communist cuz that's basically what they're getting at, everythings is equal and everything is government ran, ask Russia how well that worked out...
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The point isn't for a few to pay for everyone, the point is for everyone to pay for everyone. Who's to say you wouldn't use more than your fair share? Why should someone who can't find work be denied a doctor visit?
Last I checked, England, France, and Canada aren't communist.
I have a job with the opportunity to sign up with benefits. I still can't afford them.
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amicheze;193709 wrote:
You're telling me that I shouldn't be able to see a doctor because I can't afford it?Yes. And if you can't afford food, you don't eat... If you can't afford to pay rent, you don't have a place to live, etc. Welcome to America.
FYI, not having insurance doesn't mean you can't go to the doctor.
DaveH
'94 Supra- 7.77 @ 176mph
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