Why do people do this?
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WOW for interesting indeed.
yes i am the monty mentioned before that ran 14.59 in my stock GP. 02 4oth anniversary supercharged 3800. not to forget i am a big guy. so drop the weight i am hoping to drop and you can take a tenth off. now with new shoes i might actually take more off. then do it in the fall or spring with cooler temps and it might drop more. MIGHT that is. as i ran that 14.59 in late august at IDR. temps in the mid to hgh 70's.
while it is not fast as some and faster than others i love my car. i wanted a comfy ride for a big guy. i wanted the ability to take passengers and luggage to places. i wanted decent mpg. i get 26ish. i wanted GM. i wanted the creature comforts.do i dislike imports? not at all.
would i like rwd? heck yes
am i gonna trade what i have for one? not anytime soon.
i grew up around RWD muscle cars preferably GM. def not ford.
we each have what we like and that is great. does not mean one is better/worse than the other. it is what we want at the time. heck there are guys that have done both ends of the spectrum.that's what is great about true car nuts. they do not care what it is as long as it is done and there is passion about it. and not ignorance or stupidity. as there are muscle car guys that think there shit doesn't stink. well it does.
Monty
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mGzWvG-AEw
Here's my slow carI bought it because i like the look of it, like others have said people have different tastes for different cars or setups. They're pretty damn reliable in my eyes, as i have a beater 98 gtp that has almost 175k miles, and all it does is leak a little oil out of the valve cover gaskets, otherwise everyother gasket is original. Starts up every time and gets decent mileage (29 mpg with tuning ive done, granted im on the hiway and im not hamming on it)
as far as the transmission goes, i've had great luck with both my cars, ive been racing my 02 for the last 4 years, and have visited 14's down to 11's with the stock transmission. It finally started slipping at wide open shift in 1st gear this last year while racing, so its finally getting replaced with a built trans. I beat on my 98 beater daily and it keeps begging for more.
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d^flex;201134 wrote:
a 14 second STOCK grand prix? ill believe it when i see it.mine was in the 14's stock. Pulley system and downpipe made mine low-mid 14's..
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matt m's (from zzp) TT 3800
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/558f8b2c-0c54-4a6e-9dd9-99d50159795e.htmHere's the same car at the track
http://www.fquick.com/videos/ZZp_Performance_TT_GP_9_01___150_55/548 -
gtp2k2;203922 wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mGzWvG-AEw
Here's my slow car.
Sounds like POOOOO
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Just saying it sounds obnoxious....... would be much better with a turbo :icon_salut:
How about you go and atleast do a intro thread??
PS....... you should have a comma between Awesome and glad........... Awesome, glad...........
I am glad we are buddies
I try to make friends everyday
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zbrown;203960 wrote:
Just saying it sounds obnoxious....... would be much better with a turbo :icon_salut:Nahh why would i wanna take the easy way out, i love the challenge with the roots blower, and how it turns heads when it whines, im not too fond of your lawn mower sounding rotary motors either but its what you chose to mod right?
I live like 5 hours away from fargo, so it makes no sense to make an introduction since i'll never meet any of you guys, since i race at the track in iowa. So... hi :icon_geek:
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Owning and modding 2 GTPs thus far, I have a lot to be thankful for, my knowledge of motors and concepts have greatly improved, I have had a ton of fun with friends while building my second GTP, made some great friends cruising around in it, racing it, and have turned a lot of heads on the street with some great kills and show of preformance! For what it is, a 3700lb car, running 13.1 on street tires, no I/C, maxed out stock injectors, and burned torque converter, I think it is somewhat impressive. Even tho I personally think I have spent way too much for the gains, it's about the passion of cars, the hobby, and having plain FUN!
It's a great daily driver, family car, that can hang with the big dogs and even beat them, ask the guy in town with a 2005 Vette that I raced twice with a load of lumber in the car. It was nice seeing the yellow in the rear view! To be able to somewhat hang with a 97 Supra and 72 Detomaso Pantera GT up to 140mph is impressive I think.
Who cares what people choose to mod or join the car hobby with, it's about what they like, and a way to show off who they are. You wear Vans, I wear Doc Martins, you mod a Honda, I mod a Pontiac. It really doesn't matter as long as you have fun!
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I'm not getting into the bashing here, I just wanted to add some Grand Prix/w-body FACTS based on the modding I've done over the past 6 years.
Most people don't mod base GP's, Some do GT's and most start with the SC'd GTP (for obvious reasons) I choose the GP because I like the styling and I have a family of 4.
I ran 14.6 stock in my GTP (slowest was a 14.8)
I ran 14.8 with 75 shot NOS in my GT
I have not had the GXP to the track but 13.7 passes have been repeated on stock setups.
I ran 13.96 for under $500 in my GTP w/stock tune.
I would put the GXP's stock handling up against any other stock setup in it's class. If you ever get a chance to drive a GXP, do it.Money is a big factor in building a w-body car. The trans is weak in stock form, but all parts needed to make it sub 10's capable are available to the public.
My GTP currently dynoed 493whp on a 100,000mi stock 3800 block. The current setup is IC'd T67 Turbo @18psi.
www.goclubgp.com Vice President
mild To WILD
'02 GP GT
'07 GP GXP
'98 GP GTP Daytona Ed. -
What cars are in the same class as a GXP? Implala/buicks/300c/chargers? I used to have a modded 95GP that was going to get a L67 swap. Even if I did some basic suspension mods, it would handle nowhere near what my stock S13 240sx with 120k on stuck suspension did.
I have a feeling there is a link to this thread on club GXP. I would get a gtp as a DD, but jeeps own pontiacs in the winter, and i would spend to much $$$ on parts.
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KA-T_240;204054 wrote:
What cars are in the same class as a GXP? Implala/buicks/300c/chargers? I used to have a modded 95GP that was going to get a L67 swap. Even if I did some basic suspension mods, it would handle nowhere near what my stock S13 240sx with 120k on stuck suspension did.I have a feeling there is a link to this thread on club GXP. I would get a gtp as a DD, but jeeps own pontiacs in the winter, and i would spend to much $$$ on parts.
'95 was 2 generations ago, soon to be 3 gens with the new G8. I guess adding "class" was a bad idea when talking about the handling of the GXP. There is room for improvement on anything, but in stock form, the handling of the GXP will greatly outperform the needs of 99.9% of the people who will ever drive one. I wouldn't by a GP for heavy snow areas, just like I wouldn't buy a Jeep for heavy towing. Everything has a purpose, no vehicle is going to be the best at everything.
www.goclubgp.com Vice President
mild To WILD
'02 GP GT
'07 GP GXP
'98 GP GTP Daytona Ed. -
KA-T_240;204054 wrote:
What cars are in the same class as a GXP? Implala/buicks/300c/chargers? I used to have a modded 95GP that was going to get a L67 swap. Even if I did some basic suspension mods, it would handle nowhere near what my stock S13 240sx with 120k on stuck suspension did.I have a feeling there is a link to this thread on club GXP. I would get a gtp as a DD, but jeeps own pontiacs in the winter, and i would spend to much $$$ on parts.
Almost its a topic on clubgp.com.
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KA-T_240;204057 wrote:
My jeep tows just fine. I have driven a number of newer grand prix, and a G6 GTP which was an amazing car after I realized the owner wasn't a good driver and drove it myself.
Let me bring my 5th wheel by then, we'll giver a try.Everything has a purpose, there is no one vehicle does everything.
www.goclubgp.com Vice President
mild To WILD
'02 GP GT
'07 GP GXP
'98 GP GTP Daytona Ed. -
This is kind of a lame thread to link to another.....seriously, there are way better ones out there.
And i will throw this out there, I would take a S/C pontiac as a DD, cuz they are roomy, comfortable, and decently fun. But not as a main modified car....still too boring for that, auto and grandma status.
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