Jason's Letter to the Editor
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Tad218;203189 wrote:
"Mark Larsen of 1040 AM WWBA interviewed Mitt Romney on the morning of 1/29/2008. The sneers and chuckles from slippery Romney pushed him over the edge and drove him to support the only real candidate -- Ron Paul."shit pwn3d
I won't be voting for Ron Paul, but I can respect alot of his ideas...
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I think it's pretty much safe to say that if Hilary is elected, nobody wins. But that wasn't the point of this. The point is to get people motivated to get involved in the primaries. To get involved in the process. To get out and support the candidate that YOU think will be the best, regardless of if it is a win/lose situation. If you support a candidates ideas, but don't get out and actively support the candidate, you really can't complain when they don't win.
The media is doing a great job of NOT covering Ron Paul, despite the following....can you tell me....
*Why do active military personnel donate more money to Ron Paul than to any other GOP canditiate?
*Why are non-Americans around the world rallying for an American presidential candidate?
*How is a man the media ignores able to break fundraising records, raising millions on the internet?
*Why are hot chicks taking off their clothes to support a 72 year old politician?
Yet he gets skipped over even being mentioned by most of the networks....despite the fact that he has done fairly well in several of the primaries.
But maybe you are right DelSlow. Maybe we should all not vote, not get involved and not have any influence over the directions that our political leaders are taking us....seems like we (the young people of this country) have done this long enough already, and everything is going super smooth now...right?
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tjamz;203265 wrote:
But maybe you are right DelSlow. Maybe we should all not vote, not get involved and not have any influence over the directions that our political leaders are taking us....seems like we (the young people of this country) have done this long enough already, and everything is going super smooth now...right?I don't think he said anything like that, he just stated the obvious, that Paul isn't going to win. I think it's cool that you guys are getting out and being active in the process. But at some point you have to be realistic and decide who you are going to vote for that is on the ticket.
DaveH
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DaveH;203267 wrote:
I don't think he said anything like that, he just stated the obvious, that Paul isn't going to win. I think it's cool that you guys are getting out and being active in the process. But at some point you have to be realistic and decide who you are going to vote for that is on the ticket.Perhaps, but until the election is held it is in the best interest of whoever you are supporting to get out there and participate. Paul has more than one option in this thing. He can continue to try and run as a Republican or, he can break away and run as a Libertarian, OR he can run as both. If he runs as a Libertarian (who he is endorsed by) he can automatically be registered in every state (I forget the wording, but because they are an established party they have the ability to put people on the ballots w/o the need to petition).
If he doesn't get on the ballot, then I'm going to have to get behind someone else. Right now, that person is likely to be Obama as he is the only candidate with a shot of winning that I don't hate.
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tjamz;203270 wrote:
If he doesn't get on the ballot, then I'm going to have to get behind someone else. Right now, that person is likely to be Obama as he is the only candidate with a shot of winning that I don't hate.Yep, it sucks when you don't have someone to vote "for" but are voting for the person you dislike the least.
DaveH
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I'm not that far off from where Obama stands on many things either. But at this moment I'm still behind RP.
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“Day by day, every dollar you have is being devalued. You pay an inflation tax without even realizing it ... ”
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To go along with what Chuck is saying, as Huckabee and Guiliani start running out of money, Ron Paul keeps obtaining money from donations. Guiliani is supposed to withdraw and endorse McCain in the next few days, and Huckabee is broke and after Super Tuesday if he doesn't do anything he will more than likely withdraw. Edwards is also either in the process of withdrawing or withdrawn. So after Super Tuesday the candidates will more than likely look like this:
Republicans:
John McCain
Mitt Romney
Ron PaulDemocrats:
Hilarious Clinton
Barack ObamaPersonally, I don't think America will vote a woman or an African American into office.... Not that I have anything against either, but when election day comes, many critics agree that it will be surprising to see either of the Democrats win. I know that people in America will vote for their party (in most cases) and Democrats will have to choose one or the other...I just don't think it will happen....Yes I have seen the amount of votes both Hilary and Barack have received, but I still don't see it happening in today's America. Ron Paul thus far in the Republican race hasn't done much with votes, but he HAS made a lot of progress over the past month. Will it be enough to make an impact? I guess we will all see when California, Texas, and New York along with the other Super Tuesday states vote. I know that I personally do not want to see either Romney or McCain win, and agree that Obama is next best option to Ron Paul...But will an African American be able to make it into the White House.......
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I do believe the Obama <u>has</u> a legitimate shot at getting into office. I think America is ready for a change and this is right up his alley. If he has nothing else going for him, he has that. And not normally leaning towards the democrat way of thinking, I'm still tempted to vote Obama if it turns out that he beats out Clinton for the shot at office. I am glad that Guliani is withdrawing for sure.
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I think you guys are crazy thinking about Obama, he is to the left of comrade Clinton on anything I've seen where he actually defines his views. Mostly he hasn't said one way or the other how he views things, he just talks about how he will make things "better". Don't get me wrong, thats a lot of what most politicians do, but Obama seems to be getting a pass on that more than most at this point.
I think the US would easily vote in a black man or a woman. I know I would as long as they are representative of what I think.
Sorry, got off on a tangent there... back to RP. In Florida Giuliani got what, 17% of the vote? And he sees the writing on the wall and drops out. RP got 3%? I see thw writing on the wall there as well, but I guess we'll see on not-so-super Tuesday.
DaveH
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DaveH;203297 wrote:
Sorry, got off on a tangent there... back to RP. In Florida Giuliani got what, 17% of the vote? And he sees the writing on the wall and drops out. RP got 3%? I see thw writing on the wall there as well, but I guess we'll see on not-so-super Tuesday.
As long as Ron Paul is an option I will vote/push/support him. I don't care if he receives 0 votes or wins the individual caucus/primary.
Comparing Guiliani to Ron Paul in Florida is like comparing concrete to prostitutes. Guiliani campaigned in Florida for ~3 weeks, his investment in Florida is estimated at 30 million dollars ($30,000,000). I am not one to sit and make excuses for why Ron Paul isn't winning, but as the long shot, would you invest much into a state when someone else is investing nearly 15 times the amount you are? Especially when they are on the verge of a bankrupt campaign? Giuliani beat Ron Paul in Florida, but ended up throwing in the towel after the votes were tallied...so did Ron Paul really lose?
Ron Paul's second place finishes in the past few weeks is proof enough that he isn't over. Giuliani beat him ONCE and it was in the state Giuliani felt he NEEDED to win.
The writing on the wall for Ron Paul will be when the money stops coming in (don't hold your breath), and his followers stop pushing for his success. He is behind, but there is nothing guaranteed with the Republican party yet.
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DaveH;203297 wrote:
back to RP. In Florida Giuliani got what, 17% of the vote? And he sees the writing on the wall and drops out. RP got 3%? I see thw writing on the wall there as well, but I guess we'll see on not-so-super Tuesday.This is because Guliani put EVERYTHING he had into Florida...Florida was a get 1st or drop out for Guliani because if he can't win there, he can't win anywhere...we might as well just call him a democrat anyway.
Also, I hope hilary gets the nomination on the democratic side because it is my firm belief that she is unelectable to most Americans...i think obama has a better chance nationally than she does any day.
BTW, i'd totally be up for having a small meetup somewhere @ 10-1030am on feb. 4th in preparation for ron paul comin...kinda like whats happening for the caucus, however, i cant make it to that one...i have class til 615
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side question, PM me: anybody here district 21, supporting ron paul?
I've found myself suddenly into politics because of Ron Paul. I'm in a meetup group, I'm signing up as a delegate, I'm a freaking district coordinator - and I've hated the entire "political scene" for as long as I've known there was one. Suddenly I have a candidate running with morals who I have a chance to vote for.... this is no "lesser of two evils." this is no "well, better than so-and-so."
this is "HOLY SHIT, SOMEBODY IN POLITICS ACTUALLY CARES ABOUT THE COUNTRY AND EVERYBODY IN IT AND ISN'T TRYING TO LINE THEIR OWN POCKETS WITH MY MONEY, MY FREEDOM, AND MY FUTURE ----WHAT CAN I DO TO HELP?"
If the media weren't purposely keeping Ron Paul off to the side, trying to keep him out of the picture-- if the media didn't edit him out-- I think a lot more people would understand, and would feel just as 'woken up' as I do -- as a lot of people do --
Looking at the demographic at the Republican Party meeting last night, I was hugely aware of the age gap.. lots of people 40, 50, 60+.. and lots of people 20-30 years old. lots of people who suddenly care because they suddenly realize they can make a difference.
Yeah, I'm ranting.. great.. stop paying attention to me if you want. I see a lot of candidates running on a platform of "Change". Obama is running on Change. Hillary is running on Change. I watched them "debating" each other, it was a damn catfight. The only change I see from them is "Change from Republican to Democrat, get the same bull, the same run-around that you get right now."
The ONLY "Change" FOR THE BETTER I can see coming from this race is from Ron Paul.
The ONLY way to help make a change is to get involved.
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Ron Paul will be at NDSU in the Memorial Union in the Plains room on Monday Feb. 4th from 1pm-2pm
http://ndsu.facebook.com/event.php?eid=11995215782
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