In the late 1920s the German economy collapsed....
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d^flex;213911 wrote:
first name happened to be hussein?lol^
all 3 leading candidates suck...on one hand you'll have the republicans (mainly just mcslain) who will stay at war and thus make our currency/economy even weaker...dems will raise taxes and take more money from us, but our currency will prolly be worth more....so idk...either way we are fucked, it's just which type of fucked you consider the less of 3 evils. either you'll have more money but it'll be worth less, or less money but it'll be worth more...
BTW i wonder if dems even realize that it's the people that get paid a lot of money that are taxed the highest percent and thus giving them tax cuts makes it slightly more fair to them...either way it's a highly regressive tax system we have.
BTW last time i checked Ron Paul is still running
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torbs;213914 wrote:
lol^last name first name, whatever, you know what i meant. they read right to left so i was right by their standards.
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Bottom line whoever is president wont be able to influence the economy as much as you think. Expansionary credit, inflation, and monetary policies usually are changed by congress or the chief economist. We need the dollar backed better and quit counting on deficit spending. Deficit spending is good for a while, but will eventually the bubble pops.
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I Obama(Osama) Hussein(Saddam) Barrack. <-- LOL -- I'm surprised this guy is getting as much support as he is..
Anyone hear about his Priest?? -- Long story short, Obama's priest inspired him to write a book and he believed his priest to be like a role model. Well his priest is basically an extremist and basically anti-American from what I have read. This is a guy that Obama idolizes. He goes to the table with a lack of experience and without a solid plan. In my opinion, Hilary would be a better choice since she has some White House experience and her husband could be a go-to advisor. IIRC, during the Clinton terms the economy was way better than it ever was during the Bush term. I think a numerous amount of people will vote Democratic since they have had a Republican president for the last 8 years. However, I think this country is full of enough Racist or Sexist people that McCain could stand a better chance over Obama or Hillary.
If I were to make a guess right now.. I would think that McCain would take the next election. Between Obama/Hillary, well even though that's coming down to the wire I can't give a good guess.
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GhettoFabulousCRX;213904 wrote:
You would realy vote for barak hussein obama? eeesh we're fuckedBlueSRT0483;213991 wrote:
I Obama(Osama) Hussein(Saddam) Barrack. <-- LOL -- I'm surprised this guy is getting as much support as he is..
A name bothers you guys? Wow, you don't seriously plan to go out and vote do you? It reminds me of the females at work that try to get in on the football picks and choose based on names, colors, and animals.BlueSRT0483;213991 wrote:
Anyone hear about his Priest?? -- Long story short, Obama's priest inspired him to write a book and he believed his priest to be like a role model. Well his priest is basically an extremist and basically anti-American from what I have read. This is a guy that Obama idolizes.
The media did not even come close to showing the whole thing. And Wright did nothing but tell the truth. He said we killed way more people, including more innocent civilians in Hiroshima and Nagasaki than were killed on 9/11 and and didn't think twice about it. He talked about how Truman's own war diaries tell that Japan had already wanted to end the war and that we knew they were going to surrender even before dropping of atomic weapons.He talked about how America has treated black people, has killed so many wrongfully, and they try to make you say "God Bless America". Do we really deserved to be blessed by God? Hmmm...
The problem is that's not what people WANTED to hear. Obama did the fair and smart thing bynot throwing the guy under the bus.
BlueSRT0483;213991 wrote:
He goes to the table with a lack of experience and without a solid plan. In my opinion, Hilary would be a better choice since she has some White House experience
The experience argument for Hillary and against Obama is laughable. A one term senator vs a two term senator? If sleeping with the President counts as experience then Monica Lewinski qualifies to run for president.Her foreign policy experience included shaking hands..nothing more. She wasn't apart of any meeting and definitely wasn't answering the phone at 3 in the morning.
BlueSRT0483;213991 wrote:
However, I think this country is full of enough Racist or Sexist people that McCain could stand a better chance over Obama or Hillary.
God Bless America
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Tad218;214014 wrote:
A name bothers you guys? Wow, you don't seriously plan to go out and vote do you? It reminds me of the females at work that try to get in on the football picks and choose based on names, colors, and animals.The media did not even come close to showing the whole thing. And Wright did nothing but tell the truth. He said we killed way more people, including more innocent civilians in Hiroshima and Nagasaki than were killed on 9/11 and and didn't think twice about it. He talked about how Truman's own war diaries tell that Japan had already wanted to end the war and that we knew they were going to surrender even before dropping of atomic weapons.
He talked about how America has treated black people, has killed so many wrongfully, and they try to make you say "God Bless America". Do we really deserved to be blessed by God? Hmmm...
The problem is that's not what people WANTED to hear. Obama did the fair and smart thing bynot throwing the guy under the bus.
The experience argument for Hillary and against Obama is laughable. A one term senator vs a two term senator? If sleeping with the President counts as experience then Monica Lewinski qualifies to run for president.
Her foreign policy experience included shaking hands..nothing more. She wasn't apart of any meeting and definitely wasn't answering the phone at 3 in the morning.
God Bless America
I take it your an Obama supporter/humper, huh?
No, a name should not bother people, but given the world and it's crisis w/ terrorism, his name resembles to common terrorists of war. (osama & saddaam) I'm surprised people aren't turned away on this.
And the whole point on how his Priest inspired him - (where he wrote a book and from his the inspiration from his priest) This is all background information about him. We learn more about him, his thoughts, and opinions. From that we can gather his judgment and decision making skills. Surely they seem to be lacking
:stirpot:Remember, Clinton served 2 terms as the first lady.. I am sure during those times she probably learned a great deal on how to be an effective president. In my opinion, makes her more qualified versus Obama. So two terms 1st lady 1 term senator versus 2 term senator.
Anyways, I am only here to :stirpot:
Doesn't matter to me anywyas, since we all know McCain will take it the next presidency..
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And my parents/grandparents referred to black people as niggers (still do at times) does that mean that I'm a racist because I was influenced by them? Nope, far from it....and I'm 100% certain they were more influential in my upbringing than Obama's pastor. But while we are talking about his pastor....he has released 20 years worth of videos of his sermons, yet we can only find 5 minutes of "hate" in all that. Sure, it's still 5 minutes, but I've said shit I wish I hadn't said when I was on a rant! It doesn't make it right, but it's not worth crucifying a candidate over.
And Torbs, I am VERY aware that the "richest 15 percent" pay the lions share of the taxes....I can also say that if need be I can afford to pay more and not have my quality of life affected. The richest people don't worry about where their next meal comes from either or if they'll have enough to send their kids through a good school/university....they don't worry about how they are going to pay healthcare costs, nor do are they as concerned about the weak dollar.
I also know that Warren Buffett has gone on record stating his secretary pays more into personal income tax than he does....and he has a net worth of about $62 Billion....and is the richest man in the world in 2008 according to Forbes.
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Actually, the real question is why does the American worker need to pay income tax at all? Why doesn't the Gov't just reduce it's frivolous spending by 1/3 and live off the other taxes it collects?
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tjamz;214099 wrote:
Actually, the real question is why does the American worker need to pay income tax at all? Why doesn't the Gov't just reduce it's frivolous spending by 1/3 and live off the other taxes it collects?Because it is a big fat pig that we need to slaughter....
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SmitEvo;214095 wrote:
The real question is that why shouldnt the people with the most money pay the most in taxes?So take from the rich and give to the poor? Thats not the american/capitalist system. Why is it "fair" that any american should pay more than another? IMO we should all pay evenly, that is the definition of fairness.
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DaveH;214112 wrote:
So take from the rich and give to the poor? Thats not the american/capitalist system. Why is it "fair" that any american should pay more than another? IMO we should all pay evenly, that is the definition of fairness.Are you talking about the same amount or same percentage?
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answering for dave..... same amount
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How would you decide the amount on that? I don't see any way it could work. Not to say it's not fair, it's just not realistic. A flat percentage would also be a better idea except plans like Dick Armey's wouldn't allow employers to get a deductions for employee benefits like health insurance, making it much less likely they'll offer it.
Sure looks simple though
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Just do the personal income tax as a flat tax and leave the corporate taxes the way they are....that's my solution
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2slo50h;214381 wrote:
I am glad I don't live in North Dakota anymore, not that your votes even matter.:icon_thumleft:LOL basically true...
Not that we don't matter, we just don't have a big impact on the end result.
Probably why both Hilary & Obama put about 1 days effort into the state for campaigning.
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