Bike Accident on 25th
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reshalghoul;236045 wrote:
Who the hell gives their 15-year-old daughter a fucking Escalade?First of all, what does this have to do with anything? Nice try at straying off-topic.
Second, how do you know it was hers? Are you telling me that nobody has driven their parent's vehicles?
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TwistedAngel;236076 wrote:
Oh yeah, I forgot. It's always the bikers fault! F**k that!! :mad: People are so damn stereotypical these days it's disgusting! Yeah, he should have been wearing a helmet, but that was a choice he made. Most people you see riding in town, in fact, don't wear helmets. BUT, because of his choice, there's still no reason people should say he deserved it, and that it was all his fault.It is never the bikers fault because we all know that the majority of motorcycle riders obey traffic laws and ride defensively.
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STiSchucky;236078 wrote:
Oh i dont know, maybe cause if I got rear ended by a biker doing wheelies,standing on his bike showing off, and I get injured cause of it...i'd be pretty pissed off, wouldnt you be? Or is it my fault cause Im at the wrong place at the wrong time and I should let the guy who drives wrecklessly in traffic do his thing?Yeah, I get it. But what I was trying to say is that the person they're really putting in danger is them self. Car vs. bike...bike will most likely lose 100% of the time. It sucks that they don't think of anybody but themselves at the time, but there's nothing we can really do about it.
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TwistedAngel;236085 wrote:
But what I was trying to say is that the person they're really putting in danger is them self.
You can't be serious! Just because this time it was a 6000lb SUV doesn't mean that it couldn't be someone on a bike or walking next time! -
MisterCMK;236082 wrote:
It is never the bikers fault because we all know that the majority of motorcycle riders obey traffic laws and ride defensively.If you're being sarcastic, that's not what I'm saying. It just gets so damn old hearing people bash motorcyclists because some decide to drive like idiots. Do you know how many people don't see bikes coming down the street? Too many. Riders do have to drive defensively because of all of the drivers that decide to not take the time to check their mirrors and look around.
This guy for instance. What if he had never done a wheelie? Would people still be making such a fuss over the issue? Probably not. Whether he was on one wheel or two, the girl pulled out in front of him because she did not look before she pulled out into the road. That, or because she's an inexperienced driver, she couldn't judge how fast he was going and thought she had time to get across the road. I don't know how many times I have seen this happen or have had it done to me. -
I think the bottom line is that EVERYONE needs to be more careful. Obviously, a bike is not going to win if it hits any car, regardless of how much it weighs. If the issue is that she was 15, well she had a driver's license. Maybe they need to up the age to get a license. We all need to watch for motorcycles and motorcyclists need to take their own precautions (which includes a helmet). It's too bad shit like this happens.
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HandoEX;236086 wrote:
You can't be serious! Just because this time it was a 6000lb SUV doesn't mean that it couldn't be someone on a bike or walking next time!You all keep changing the damn situation. Who the hell walks in front of a bike doing a God damn wheelie for one?!? If you do...you're kind of asking for something bad to happen to you aren't you? Yeah, the bikers probably stupid for doing the wheelie, but you're probably even more stupid if you put yourself in front of it. It all comes down to paying attention to the situation around you. For BOTH parties.
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00accord;236092 wrote:
i think the bottom line is that everyone needs to be more careful. Obviously, a bike is not going to win if it hits any car, regardless of how much it weighs. If the issue is that she was 15, well she had a driver's license. Maybe they need to up the age to get a license. We all need to watch for motorcycles and motorcyclists need to take their own precautions (which includes a helmet). It's too bad shit like this happens.i agree
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TwistedAngel;236090 wrote:
I Whether he was on one wheel or two, the girl pulled out in front of him because she did not look before she pulled out into the road. That, or because she's an inexperienced driver, she couldn't judge how fast he was going and thought she had time to get across the road.Hmm or explanation C...
He was going double the posted speed limit.... and she pulled out when he was a half a block away
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TwistedAngel;236094 wrote:
You all keep changing the damn situation. Who the hell walks in front of a bike doing a God damn wheelie for one?!? If you do...you're kind of asking for something bad to happen to you aren't you? Yeah, the bikers probably stupid for doing the wheelie, but you're probably even more stupid if you put yourself in front of it. It all comes down to paying attention to the situation around you. For BOTH parties.I didn't change shit. You said the only person put in danger when a biker rides a wheelie is himself and that is ridiculous.
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im sure we all know that intersection is a pain in the ass to make a left on. the girl was 15, with a friend which shows an inepxerianced driver with distractions on top of it. was the biker doing something reckless? yes we don't know how fast he was going yet and more then likely what happened was that the girl didn't see him or from lack of experience pulled out thinking she could make it. If i saw a bike doing a wheelie i wouldn't think to try and pull out in front and i highly doubt the biker would attempt a wheelie if he saw her pulling out.
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If he was going double the speed limit, it's his fault, but you can't tell me you wouldn't notice if someone was going that fast. So...if she saw that he was going that fast and pulled out in front of him anyways...they're both at fault. And if the road is as busy at that time as someone mentioned, how would he have had the chance to speed that much?
I never said a biker ONLY puts himself in danger when he rides a wheelie. I just said they are the main person in danger because they're usually up against bigger vehicles. Yes, I suppose someone walking or riding a bike could get involved, but the chances are slim. If it were to happen, I'm sure the biker would pay the consequences.
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TwistedAngel;236059 wrote:
From the way the police report sounds, the 15 year old girl, who was driving a vehicle WAY too f***ing big for herIll come to you when i need help deciding what person should drive what kind of vehicle. You must me an expert on that.
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TwistedAngel;236090 wrote:
If you're being sarcastic, that's not what I'm saying. It just gets so damn old hearing people bash motorcyclists because some decide to drive like idiots. Do you know how many people don't see bikes coming down the street? Too many. Riders do have to drive defensively because of all of the drivers that decide to not take the time to check their mirrors and look around.
This guy for instance. What if he had never done a wheelie? Would people still be making such a fuss over the issue? Probably not. Whether he was on one wheel or two, the girl pulled out in front of him because she did not look before she pulled out into the road. That, or because she's an inexperienced driver, she couldn't judge how fast he was going and thought she had time to get across the road. I don't know how many times I have seen this happen or have had it done to me.the thing is no here has yet to say anything as bikers as a group. only things about this particular biker specifically. theres no reason why the girl should be criticized for driving escalade, it doesnt matter if she was in a 5500lb suv or a 1600lb geo the biker was doing a wheelie in rush hour traffic AND HIT HER.
this had nothing to do with "everyone knows someone whos done it" or "its not like you dont ever drive like an idiot" becuase this guy was doing something he obviously shouldnt have been doing, especially without a helmet! dont try and defend him in this particular case
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DelSlow;236102 wrote:
Ill come to you when i need help deciding what person should drive what kind of vehicle. You must me an expert on that.Yeah. Because that's what I said right?
Oh, and I think you meant be
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SPANISH-RICE;236103 wrote:
the thing is no here has yet to say anything as bikers as a group. only things about this particular biker specifically. theres no reason why the girl should be criticized for driving escalade, it doesnt matter if she was in a 5500lb suv or a 1600lb geo the biker was doing a wheelie in rush hour traffic AND HIT HER.this had nothing to do with "everyone knows someone whos done it" or "its not like you dont ever drive like an idiot" becuase this guy was doing something he obviously shouldnt have been doing, especially without a helmet! dont try and defend him in this particular case
And just why should she be defended exactly?? She is afterall the one that pulled out in front of him. CORRECT??
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Slowica;236109 wrote:
both drivers are at fault not just one or the otherI agree with you 100%
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