Minnesota
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How the hell does one person accomplish more in high school than another? Either you graduate or you don't, it's as simple as black and white. If your going to push your way into an argument by making claims of all the great things you did you better have something to back it up, it doesn't matter if it's in the real world or on the internet. Usually the people that brag the most about there accomplishments have done very little or nothing at all.
I just think it's funny that almost everything that Backpedal-08 posts turns into an argument in itself. Oh well, it's still winter and we all still need to be amused by something for a while longer.
At least we know one thing he actually is better at than any of us........
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i'm waiting for Chuck to get in on the other side and argue.
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I know that there are people here that didnt graduate from HS, so forgive me if I affend you. But if you drop out of HS for anything other than psychological or medical problems for Freaking retarded. There is no reason why anyone should drop out! HS is just way to easy, they make it almost impossible to fail.
If your out of HS and didnt graduate, Go back. They now have online classes where you can get your diploma online. You would be suprised what a little maturity will do. I will offer free tutoring for anyone that would like to go back. Im serious! A diploma is just way to important.
Im no genious, but I have 1 year left before I recieve a degree in Mechanical Engineering. That has to speak for something.
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DaveH;264329 wrote:
Public education is FREE, and it is proven to give you an advantage in life over those who don't get it. Why anyone would drop out is simply beyond reasoning.Word... to graduate hs, u basically just have to show up...
I think this would be a good idea...
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FWIW, I think it is a great bill as well to mandate staying til you're 18. I just wanted to see what others thought.
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DaveH;264396 wrote:
I know thats all I did, you didn't have to worry about seeing my name on the honor role.:icon_rabbit:
That explains why you are just working for that puny little company over by fleet farm....I knew they'd hire anyone who walked through the door!
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same here bubba...even got student of the 1/4 a couple times....yet the yearbook has a picture of me asleep in English class...no, not the English class that I was supposed to be in when I fell asleep...the class 2 periods later where I was still asleep.
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I think it's a dumb bill, but that's because I am against compulsory schooling in general.
Look, not everybody is cut out for going to school, much less the same type of school. Running schools like jails will continue to be a problem.
I know some of you hate reading, but this is a really good read on the history of public and compulsory education in the world and specifically the US. I have this in paper form but this is the complete text online from the publisher:
http://www.mises.org/story/2226
Here's the short version: all of the founders of public education in our country, including Horace Mann, the namesake of Horace Mann elementary school right down the street from me, viewed public education as the means to make all people equal, uniform, and conformist. The early educationists in the US firmly beleived that the child was the property of the state.
The book is only 54 pages printed, it will probably only take you a couple hours to read the link above.
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thrash;264496 wrote:
I think it's a dumb bill, but that's because I am against compulsory schooling in general.Look, not everybody is cut out for going to school, much less the same type of school. Running schools like jails will continue to be a problem.
I know some of you hate reading, but this is a really good read on the history of public and compulsory education in the world and specifically the US. I have this in paper form but this is the complete text online from the publisher:
http://www.mises.org/story/2226
Here's the short version: all of the founders of public education in our country, including Horace Mann, the namesake of Horace Mann elementary school right down the street from me, viewed public education as the means to make all people equal, uniform, and conformist. The early educationists in the US firmly beleived that the child was the property of the state.
The book is only 54 pages printed, it will probably only take you a couple hours to read the link above.
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thrash;264496 wrote:
I think it's a dumb bill, but that's because I am against compulsory schooling in general.Yay, the person I was hoping would respond...and responded in the way I figured he would.
Look, not everybody is cut out for going to school, much less the same type of school. Running schools like jails will continue to be a problem.
Just like not everyone is cut out for a job and therefore shouldn't be expected to have one in order to live in this country (yes...sarcasm). Seriously though, you went through public school (I think you said you did anyway) as did I as did 99% of the people on this board. If this board is any indication of how well the schools worked for making kids more liberal, I'd say that they failed horribly at that. However, and please don't take this the wrong way, I've never met one single kid who was home schooled that turned out to be a productive member of society....I hope you prove me wrong, but the majority seem to walk away from home schooling without the ability to function in the real world. Without the ability to take criticism/teasing/etc.. and roll with the punches. They tend not to do well in comparison with their peers either on careers. This is why I have referred to home schooling as a form of child abuse....again, not singling you out, you seem intelligent enough to school your kids at home, most parents ultimately are not.
Now private schooling is a different story, but they are affected by this law as well....home schooled kids can still choose to drop out pretty much whenever they or their parents decide is a good time to do so.
I know some of you hate reading, but this is a really good read on the history of public and compulsory education in the world and specifically the US. I have this in paper form but this is the complete text online from the publisher:
http://www.mises.org/story/2226
Here's the short version: all of the founders of public education in our country, including Horace Mann, the namesake of Horace Mann elementary school right down the street from me, viewed public education as the means to make all people equal, uniform, and conformist. The early educationists in the US firmly believed that the child was the property of the state.
The book is only 54 pages printed, it will probably only take you a couple hours to read the link above.
We are going back a good number of years here and like all beliefs, they tend to change over time. But what is wrong with giving everyone an equal and uniform education across the country? (I haven't read the article yet, but I promise I will) We keep saying that everyone has the same opportunity to make it here, but is that really true if we abolished the public school system altogether (like you are in favor of) and relied on private education. It is safe to say that my kid would attend a better school and receive a superior education vs what a single mothers child would receive (if any school would be available at all). I'm sorry, but your idea on this one would create such a great divide between the rich/poor that someone who was on the poor side of the argument would very likely never had an equal opportunity (or any opportunity really) to achieve incredible success....again, the majority of people in this country attended public schools and we are hardly a nation of conformists.
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