watch this video, then discuss
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thrash, I completely agree with you. I want clarify something that I had said earlier. I believe that the main higher power that muslems, jews, and christians follow is the same God. but your belief in God alone does not save you from hell. It is 100% your believe that Jesus Christ is the only bridge that joins humans and God. your paragraph written above is very well written. Good Job
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amicheze;279787 wrote:
But it theoretically is possible.If time travel was possible, then why haven't we been visited by our future?
Also, I think religion and evolution can co-exist. There's proof that many animals have evolved over time via fossils, etc. In addition, in Genesis, during the days of creation, who's to say one day to God isn't 1 trillion years in our time?
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Faith and religion all depend on what you put into it. You are not going to feel the Spirit if your parents made you go and you didn't really give yourself to it. I've been reading alot of posts in the "what has God done for me" fashion. Well What have you done for him? People wonder why our government is soo fucked up, but it is because of those attitudes. All people care about is what the government is going to do for them, whether it be welfare or health care. If everyone actually put something into them we might be get some where(after we rid corruption and worthless politicians).
Even if you don't believe in God religion it does make the world a better place. What would the world be like if the only thing stopping people from committing crimes was the local law?
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Cura86;279851 wrote:
Even if you don't believe in God religion it does make the world a better place. What would the world be like if the only thing stopping people from committing crimes was the local law?Being Atheist was one of the main reasons why the Soviet Union didn't nuke us during the Cold War...Because they knew if they attacked us, we would absolutely demolish them, thus ending the only life they have.
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Cura86;279851 wrote:
Even if you don't believe in God religion it does make the world a better place.Yeah, the holocust, crusades, child abuse, not allowing birth control, all the other religious wars definately made the world a better place.....
I agree that having beliefs and morals is obviously a good thing (which does not necessarily have anything to do with religion), and religion is probably the most major way of spreading these, but organized religion has done so many bad things that I refuse to respect it.
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Wait, the holocaust was because of religion?
Child abuse is somehow unique to religious people?
War is only fought for religious reasons?
The majority of wars in the last 200 years -- and all of the most deadly ones -- have not had anything to do with religion.
The holocaust was perpetrated by people who were eugenecists, and who had no religious inclination whatsoever. And their chosen victims weren't singled out based on their religion, but on their group identity. Being Jewish at that time was considered an ethnicity. You'll note that homosexuals also got the Auschwitz treatment, and that certainly wasn't for religious.
Finally -- the bit about child abuse doesn't even make sense.
Some people are able to present lucid arguments for why they are atheists, that make sense, appear to be factual, and reflect careful consideration of the subject.
That's not what you have done here, however
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thrash;279964 wrote:
Wait, the holocaust was because of religion?Child abuse is somehow unique to religious people?
War is only fought for religious reasons?
The holocaust was perpetrated by people who were eugenecists, and who had no religious inclination whatsoever. And their chosen victims weren't singled out based on their religion, but on their group identity. Being Jewish at that time was considered an ethnicity. You'll note that homosexuals also got the Auschwitz treatment, and that certainly wasn't for religious.
Finally -- the bit about child abuse doesn't even make sense.
Maybe im not a very good reader, but I don't recall where I said that wars were only fought over religion, or that child abuse was unique to religion. I doubt that I would respect any organization or group that had such widespread abuse (that doesn't make sense to you??) I also was only mentioning that all of those things were affected/caused in a negative way by religion, and yes, much of the holocaust and other racist acts/movements are at least partly to do with religion.
That was only one part of the reason I don't respect organized religion in response to the post above. I could care less if people are religious/faithful/or anything else. You don't know my beliefs, all I said is that I don't respect most organized religion because of what I have seen from it.
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You name all of these things that have no stronger association with religion than they do with anything else, and then claim that because of those things, you don't like religion.
Please explain, in your own words, what the holocaust was and how it was an act committed by religious people or in accordance with religious principles. I think you are 120% cracked out of your head on this, but if you've got an explanation I'm certainly curious to hear it.
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evolution still takes place...it takes x amount of years for it to take place. Hence adapting to environmental changes.
Spanish rice you sound like an annihilist (sp).
Ive kind come to the same conclusion in that total existence...whatever it maybe, doesnt matter because there isnt a hard definitive truth. In other words, everything is purely subjective and objectivitiy only exists in "subjective" terms...correct me if im wrong but Ayn Rand speaks mostly on the theory of objectivism in case you were wondering.
sorry dont mean to sound pretentious,...i find this interesting.
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ergh thrash already talked about ayn rand...my bads.
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