06 Mazda speed 6 or 05 Subaru legacy GT
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MisterCMK;282827 wrote:
Are you actually using wikipedia as a credible source?I couldn't find a MisterCMK dictionary close by...
will this work? http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sports+car
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bubba;282829 wrote:
im assuming he is... wow super fail... Isnt that the first thing they teach u in school when writing a paper, dont use wiki or u will pretty much fail...I'm not writing a paper, I assumed people understand that, please tell me where wikipedia is wrong on this one?
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Bookem;283085 wrote:
Never raced one at the track, so I can say I have never been beat by one.Well, I've never raced a legacy gt either, from what I've read and the specs the cars are very close, and it's a driver's race... At least you're being honest tho...
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Bookem;283075 wrote:
There isn't too many MS6's or LGT's on the boards, so it's a new arguement and more intriguing than the usual Ford vs. Chevy, Import vs. Domestic and Fwd vs. Rwd vs. Awd we normally see. Yes, visit Legacy forums and post back here.http://www.legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=83047
apparently you guys have problems with the factory turbos too
http://www.legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=55332
http://www.legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15254
http://www.legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18887I could dig up more, but it wouldn't prove anything, all kinds of cars have issues. I said early on that they are both very good cars, and I still stand by that.
It's amazing how you pulled up my old posts but didn't pull up one of my first threads where I posted pics of the car, and fargostreet members only posted positive comments...
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bubba;283130 wrote:
here's a better thought, ban him and we dont have to put up with him at all, lol...Ban me for having a different viewpoint? sheesh!
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bubba;283157 wrote:
no, being an irritating fag... ur worse then delslow...Did you come up with that one yourself, or did you need help?
You obviously enjoy this or you would have left the thread...
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bubba;283157 wrote:
no, being an irritating fag... ur worse then delslow...No one..... is MORE irritating than delslow!!!!
Understeer is when you hit the wall with the front of the car
Oversteer is when you hit the wall with the rear of the car.
Horsepower is how fast you hit the wall
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JN210;283168 wrote:
dont they all? I mean...thats usually how threads like this get this big.Back in 2004, I created a thread on FS that went 50 pages in 2 days...
It's the same ignorance of facts, and failure to at least consider a different viewpoint, just different group of punks.
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I havnt seen delslow around in awhile though?...so lately he hasnt been bad.
Mazdaspeed6;283171 wrote:
Back in 2004, I created a thread on FS that went 50 pages in 2 days...It's the same ignorance of facts, and failure to at least consider a different viewpoint, just different group of punks.
now that is impressive!
*1989 Nissan 300ZX Z31 *
> DelSlow;262050 wrote:
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ruthless351;283169 wrote:
No one..... is MORE irritating than delslow!!!!Gravedigger was before your time, but possibly worse...
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Mazdaspeed6;283093 wrote:
http://www.legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=83047apparently you guys have problems with the factory turbos too
http://www.legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=55332
http://www.legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15254
http://www.legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18887I could dig up more, but it wouldn't prove anything, all kinds of cars have issues. I said early on that they are both very good cars, and I still stand by that.
It's amazing how you pulled up my old posts but didn't pull up one of my first threads where I posted pics of the car, and fargostreet members only posted positive comments...
Good job finding those defects. I'll give you a bit harder task this time, my Lgt has an ej20g engine that came with a tdo5 turbo, can you find any those with major defects on forums?
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Mazdaspeed6;283171 wrote:
**Back in 2004, I created a thread on FS that went 50 pages in 2 days...It's the same ignorance of facts, and failure to at least consider a different viewpoint, just different group of punks.**
This thread is half nonsense rambling!!!
Mazdaspeed6;281675 wrote:
Modified magazine can't drive. Car and Driver did 14.0 @ 99 mph IIRC.Mazdaspeed6;281676 wrote:
Yes my 60' time of 1.83 sec on BALD tires was totally gay...Mazdaspeed6;281688 wrote:
What was your best time when your car was near stock on bald tires?Mazdaspeed6;281689 wrote:
about as slow as a Legacy GT
Mazdaspeed6;281691 wrote:
how about reading reviews?http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/Comparos/articleId=109487/pageId=68941
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/sedans/112_0602_midsize_awd_sedan_comparison/index.html
The truth is both cars are very good. The speed6 is better at handling than a Legacy GT. The Legacy gt has a mod friendly engine (no doubt b/c of the STI aftermarket), it does not have a 6 speed manual. Stock for stock it's a drivers race period! Drive both cars and pick the one that's the best for you.
Mazdaspeed6;281702 wrote:
as in 60' time...Mazdaspeed6;281729 wrote:
You should look into stock legacy intercoolers exploding, or the powerloss issue. I have never broke the rear end or an axle. I only sheared the bolts. The turbo seals thing is annoying, but I'll prolly upgrade at some point anyway.Don't be a Fan Boy, especially if you have never driven a MS6. If you had you'd discover stock for stock they out handle and out brake all legacies...
Btw, what was your best 60' time with the amazing Subaru AWD system. Like 2.6sec? Ok then, don't be a dick towards me Derek.
Mazdaspeed6;281730 wrote:
The EVO X makes the STI AWD system look super gay. What's your point?My key pass system, stability control, handling, brakes, BOSE system all crap on the Legacy. Does the legacy gt even come with HID's stock? How many airbags?
Does that mean the Legacy is gay? No, it just has different strengths.
Mazdaspeed6;281731 wrote:
Well, then I guess you shouldn't be so quick to diss...Mazdaspeed6;281853 wrote:
If you looked at my original post, I was just saying saying that that the AWD system is not pure crap.You act like you run 1.3's all day long. When you likely only had a marginally better time than mine with a lighter, faster car with better tires.
Mazdaspeed6;281855 wrote:
Ok, by admitting your a Fanboy, you're admitting you can't make fair comparisons between 2 cars...Why are you cocking off on fargostreet, when you could have dissed my car in person Derek? I don't understand people that knock cars worth multiples of their own... Or don't even thank someone for lending them a welder... I have never been anything but respectful to you. Even when you were afraid to race me, b/c your REX wasn't up to the task or broken or something, I didn't diss your car.
I like having HID's and 8 airbags to protect myself. The fake tips are no big deal, the Lexus IS-F has them and anyone with common sense would rock an IS-F over an Legacy.
You don't read very many magazines, the Evo X almost always comes out on top.
You don't know very much about my car. You can't seem to wrap your head around the fact that my car is not reflective of the entire MS6 population. The highest dyno so far is 386whp, do you think that was done with a few bolt ones? The fastest stock MS6 run is 13.53 . My car, stock for stock will outhandle, and out brake a Spec B, and run door to door down the strip. The stock stereo and keypass sytem blow the suby out of the water too...
That being said, G/L to the OP with his purchase! Sounds like you're being smart and not overpaying...
Mazdaspeed6;281886 wrote:
The power to weight ratios are nearly identical, and I have better gearing...So it's a driver's race like I said before.
Mazdaspeed6;281917 wrote:
I didn't realize your name was Derek...Mazdaspeed6;281922 wrote:
In the real world you can't state facts with out backing them Derek. You have only stated Fanboy opinions...Wow, you have trouble reading. You said "how come you cant really mod the ms6 besides a few small bolt on crap?" Now connect that with the 386whp statement. That was done with an upgraded turbo, I'm sure I could dig up a link for you, but you still won't admit you spoke without knowing what you're talking about will you?
You don't like the intercooler design, what are you an engineer now or something? You don't even know the difference between a pipe and a duct wow...
Ironic you mention, a 2.6 sec 60' time. Did you not tell me in person that that's what you ran with your WRX? With your omg amazing AWD system lol...
I have launched many times since the bolts sheared 2 years ago, and my rear end is still fine. Thanks for your concern... I would be happy to race a Spec B at the track. I'll even demod to make it fair.
My AWD goes 50/50, it does amazing in the snow and ice, whether you handle that. With the stability control it may be even better than a Legacy GT in the snow
Come on, I want to see all these magazines ranting about how the EVO X has an worse AWD system than the STI... Derek are you there?
BTW, the south will never rise again...:)
Mazdaspeed6;281924 wrote:
Don't say you're not being Cocky and end with a statement like that. I don't have a BOV moron... Learn how to spell purchases while you're at it. Why would I shove a BOV up my butt? lol... That makes absolutely no sense.I'll stop defending my car when you stop attacking it... OK?
Let's talk about your car for awhile. Why is your BMW sooooo amazing? How much did you pay for it? You should get your annoying exhaust fixed. Wait, it doesn't rattle anymore? How did that get resolved?
Mazdaspeed6;281925 wrote:
You posted a video of modded spec B vs a stock MS6 as proof. Did you think I wouldn't notice that?Mazdaspeed6;281926 wrote:
something more for you:Mazdaspeed6;281933 wrote:
Come on, you know reflashes aren't free, besides give the MS6 a tune and it's over for the WRX all over again.How is the WRX better in snow? I have no reason to drive my car in mud lol... Mazda has rally heritage too. Apparently Subaru copied them and pulled out of rally too...
And I highly doubt nobody has broke part of a subby AWD stystem...
Mazdaspeed6;281934 wrote:
You are not a Fanboy in my book, for the record, I always liked your WRX.[LIST=1]
[/LIST]> Mazdaspeed6;282330 wrote:If my AWD was pure crap maybe I'd cut 2.0 60 foots, that was my point, sorry if it was misunderstood.
I never bragged, don't twist what I said please.
Mazdaspeed6;282331 wrote:
b/c he's charging in his signatureMazdaspeed6;282332 wrote:
change your signature then if they're freeMazdaspeed6;282333 wrote:
lol, that was weak...Mazdaspeed6;282331 wrote:
b/c he's charging in his signatureMazdaspeed6;282332 wrote:
change your signature then if they're freeMazdaspeed6;282333 wrote:
lol, that was weak...Mazdaspeed6;282334 wrote:
let me know when you prove me wrong on anything...oh wait, you can't...
Mazdaspeed6;282379 wrote:
I had no need to multiquote... Yes I'm stupid, it's amazing I can hold down a job repairing and designing electromechanical industrial equipment...Seriously, most of you guys are alright in person... Get behind a keyboard and all of sudden you're all knowing lol...
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