MDGFAB can not deliver AGAIN!!!!
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grr... thats like a $1.00 An hour!!! I dont detail cars for $25.00 to gain business.. If your going to sponsor a car atleast sponsor a car were you will gain business..Its like sponsoring my low 11 sec evo... Pointless...
My point is build stuff and post pics and info online and 1000's of ppl will see it. If you give your stuff away and tell him to show ppl he might show a few 100 ppl... Get my point.. If you want to grow use the internet, make the turn around very fast! Customer service is key! I never buy anything from anyone unless its instock..
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aliengotpsi;287916 wrote:
If you want to grow use the internet, make the turn around very fast! Customer service is key! I never buy anything from anyone unless its instock..THATS TRUTH!!!! I dont care what specialty niche your in. Customer service is king. <u>Your doing yourself a favor by doing them a favor.</u> People pay for results. Plain and simple. And by doing something to get the mock up for an inexpensive price is fine as long as it gets done by agreed time. A big part of the business is not just the product but how the transaction as a whole is taken care of. You can be a god at doing something but, if you have to wait an eternity for it, you'll never sell it.
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weshole;287927 wrote:
THATS TRUTH!!!! I dont care what specialty niche your in. Customer service is king. <u>Your doing yourself a favor by doing them a favor.</u> People pay for results. Plain and simple. And by doing something to get the mock up for an inexpensive price is fine as long as it gets done by agreed time. A big part of the business is not just the product but how the transaction as a whole is taken care of. You can be a god at doing something but, if you have to wait an eternity for it, you'll never sell it.+1!
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weshole;287927 wrote:
A big part of the business is not just the product but how the transaction as a whole is taken care of. You can be a god at doing something but, if you have to wait an eternity for it, you'll never sell it.seems like someone on here fails to realize this...
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So I just spoke with the customer again today and he had said that as of this thursday it will be 4 weeks and they had agreed on 2 for the manifold intercooler piping and down pipe? Is that stuff done?
He also told me that he has done fabricating for a living and knows what this stuff costs and a time line for how long it takes. So if matt would have succeeded on the deadline and things would have exceeded the customers expectations he was willing to hand matt another $1000 over the agreed price. This guy has a very good rep and I will doubt business will be sent his way now.
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I dunno, looked to me as if 1/2 the welds were missing on the bottom half of the cage. I'm not sure if it is designed that way, but I couldn't see how a 'half moon' type weld would be structurally sound on the base of a cage...but then again, could be the way it's suppose to.
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DelSlow;288025 wrote:
I dunno, looked to me as if 1/2 the welds were missing on the bottom half of the cage. I'm not sure if it is designed that way, but I couldn't see how a 'half moon' type weld would be structurally sound on the base of a cage...but then again, could be the way it's suppose to.Or it could be that he wasnt finished welding it in yet. Just a thought. I personally have no clue.
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DelSlow;288025 wrote:
I dunno, looked to me as if 1/2 the welds were missing on the bottom half of the cage. I'm not sure if it is designed that way, but I couldn't see how a 'half moon' type weld would be structurally sound on the base of a cage...but then again, could be the way it's suppose to.I can't remember off the top of my head for sure, but I think NHRA only requires a certain amount of area welded? I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure its something like that...
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for roll bars anyway
"4:10 ROLL BARS
Mandatory in all cars running 11.49 or quicker, or per Class
Requirements. All roll bars must be within 6 inches of the rear
or side of the driver’s head, extend in height at least 3 inches
above the driver’s helmet with driver in normal driving position,
and be at least as wide as the driver’s shoulders or within 1
inch of the driver’s door. Roll bar must be adequately supported
or cross-braced to prevent forward or lateral collapse. Rear
braces must be of the same diameter and wall thickness as the
roll bar and intersect with the roll bar at a point not more than 5
inches from the top of the roll bar. Crossbar and rear braces
must be welded to main hoop. Sidebar must be included on
driver’s side and must pass the driver at a point midway
between the shoulder and elbow. Swing-out sidebar permitted.
All roll bars must have in their construction a cross bar for seat
bracing and as the shoulder-harness attachment point; cross
bar must be installed no more than 4 inches below, and not
above, the driver’s shoulders or to side bar. All vehicles with
OEM frame (i.e., pickup truck where body bolts to framerails)
must have roll bar welded or bolted to frame. Installation offrame connectors on unibody cars does not constitute a frame;
therefore, it is not necessary to have the roll bar attached to the
frame. Unibody cars with stock floor and firewall (wheeltubs
permitted) may attach roll bar with 6-inch x 6-inch x .125-inch
steel plates on top and bottom of floor bolted together with at
least four 3/8-inch bolts and nuts, or weld main hoop to rocker
sill area with .125-inch reinforcing plates, with plates welded
completely. All 4130 chrome moly tube welding must be done by
approved TIG heliarc process; mild steel welding must be done
by approved MIG wire feed or approved TIG heliarc process.
Welding must be free of slag and porosity. Any grinding of
welds prohibited. See illustration. Roll bar must be padded
anywhere driver’s helmet may contact it while in driving
position. Adequate padding must have minimum 1/4-inch
compression or meet SFI Spec 45.1." -
zbrown;288030 wrote:
for roll bars anyway"4:10 ROLL BARS
Mandatory in all cars running 11.49 or quicker, or per Class
Requirements. All roll bars must be within 6 inches of the rear
or side of the driver’s head, extend in height at least 3 inches
above the driver’s helmet with driver in normal driving position,
and be at least as wide as the driver’s shoulders or within 1
inch of the driver’s door. Roll bar must be adequately supported
or cross-braced to prevent forward or lateral collapse. Rear
braces must be of the same diameter and wall thickness as the
roll bar and intersect with the roll bar at a point not more than 5
inches from the top of the roll bar. Crossbar and rear braces
must be welded to main hoop. Sidebar must be included on
driver’s side and must pass the driver at a point midway
between the shoulder and elbow. Swing-out sidebar permitted.
All roll bars must have in their construction a cross bar for seat
bracing and as the shoulder-harness attachment point; cross
bar must be installed no more than 4 inches below, and not
above, the driver’s shoulders or to side bar. All vehicles with
OEM frame (i.e., pickup truck where body bolts to framerails)
must have roll bar welded or bolted to frame. Installation offrame connectors on unibody cars does not constitute a frame;
therefore, it is not necessary to have the roll bar attached to the
frame. Unibody cars with stock floor and firewall (wheeltubs
permitted) may attach roll bar with 6-inch x 6-inch x .125-inch
steel plates on top and bottom of floor bolted together with at
least four 3/8-inch bolts and nuts, or weld main hoop to rocker
sill area with .125-inch reinforcing plates, with plates welded
completely. All 4130 chrome moly tube welding must be done by
approved TIG heliarc process; mild steel welding must be done
by approved MIG wire feed or approved TIG heliarc process.
Welding must be free of slag and porosity. Any grinding of
welds prohibited. See illustration. Roll bar must be padded
anywhere driver’s helmet may contact it while in driving
position. Adequate padding must have minimum 1/4-inch
compression or meet SFI Spec 45.1."Ok so definitely not legal.
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