Chapman resigns
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I find it funny that people actually think that a government project (especially any construction project undertaken by NDSU) will come in on time and at or under budget. Look at how long it took for them to complete the additions to the Memorial Union and the Wellness Center.
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MisterCMK;291684 wrote:
I find it funny that people actually think that a government project (especially any construction project undertaken by NDSU) will come in on time and at or under budget. Look at how long it took for them to complete the additions to the Memorial Union and the Wellness Center.the union is a joke... $22 million... it's not even that great...
did like the wellness center, best work out place i've ever been to...
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bubba;291688 wrote:
the union is a joke... $22 million... it's not even that great...did like the wellness center, best work out place i've ever been to...
The union ended up costing $22 million? Yikes!
I still don't understand the university's logic in buying all of the downtown buildings when they have plenty of space right on campus. The architecture building I can justify as it kind of goes along with the theme of the program. However, the business building and I think there was another one is silly. They have to spend money to gut, renovate and bring those buildings up to code. They also have to spend more on personnel costs to maintain the IT stuff, building maintenance, etc. Now consider that they are going to have to run more busses to get students down there and back. Stupid IMO.
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MisterCMK;291691 wrote:
The union ended up costing $22 million? Yikes!I still don't understand the university's logic in buying all of the downtown buildings when they have plenty of space right on campus. The architecture building I can justify as it kind of goes along with the theme of the program. However, the business building and I think there was another one is silly. They have to spend money to gut, renovate and bring those buildings up to code. They also have to spend more on personnel costs to maintain the IT stuff, building maintenance, etc. Now consider that they are going to have to run more busses to get students down there and back. Stupid IMO.
agreed... that and it's just a huge hassle for students...
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MisterCMK;291684 wrote:
I find it funny that people actually think that a government project (especially any construction project undertaken by NDSU) will come in on time and at or under budget. Look at how long it took for them to complete the additions to the Memorial Union and the Wellness Center.The worst part about it (like you and I have talked about before Chris) is that a lot of it was no bid gov't work. IDK how the hell they get away with it, but HUGE portions of the work never have a competitive bid to go with them (Fire & Security for example....SimplexGrinnell never has competition as everyone else is excluded from bidding, I know for a fact that those projects go out at 40pts profit margin, and never mind what happens with change-orders...)
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Trafik Jamz;291706 wrote:
The worst part about it (like you and I have talked about before Chris) is that a lot of it was no bid gov't work. IDK how the hell they get away with it, but HUGE portions of the work never have a competitive bid to go with them (Fire & Security for example....SimplexGrinnell never has competition as everyone else is excluded from bidding, I know for a fact that those projects go out at 40pts profit margin, and never mind what happens with change-orders...)it's called kickbacks... i'm sure he was banking from giving certain companies the deal...
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I can assure you with SimplexGrinnell there were no kickbacks...last guy that tried that got canned and took 1/2 the office out with him. They aren't even allowed to bring donuts to meetings on public bid projects anymore.
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No Bid Gov't work happens in IT as well, however there is definitely a bidding process to get listed on the state contract... At least from an IT standpoint we are the approved vendor for Brand X and must sell @ 41 off of list.... I'd imagine other industries do things similarly..
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bubba;291688 wrote:
the union is a joke... $22 million... it's not even that great...did like the wellness center, best work out place i've ever been to...
Wellness center is already too small for the amount of people that use it. Even at 11AM it's crowded, I can only imagine how shitty it would be around 5-9PM.
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StangerBanger96;291841 wrote:
Wellness center is already too small for the amount of people that use it. Even at 11AM it's crowded, I can only imagine how shitty it would be around 5-9PM.that sucks, was such a nice place when it first opened.. wasnt all that busy either when i was there...
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