What if 20 million Illegal Aliens vacated to America?
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stole this from a thread on NA
long, but a good read for sureI, Tina Griego, journalist for the Denver Rocky Mountain News wrote a
column titled, "Mexican Visitor's Lament"- 10/25/07.I interviewed Mexican journalist Evangelina Hernandez while visiting
Denver last week. Hernandez said, "illegal aliens pay rent, buy
groceries, buy clothes. What Happens to your country's economy if 20
million people go away?" Hummm, I thought, what would happen, so I did
my due diligence, buried my nose as a reporter into the FACTS I found
below.It's a good question it deserves an honest answer. Over 80% of Americans
demand secured borders and illegal migration stopped. But what would
happen if all 20 million or more vacated America ? The answers I found
may surprise you!In California , if 3.5 million illegal aliens moved back to Mexico , it
would leave an extra $10.2 billion to spend on overloaded school
systems, bankrupt hospitals and overrun prisons. It would leave highways
cleaner, safer and less congested. Everyone could understand one another
as English became the dominant language again.In Colorado , 500,000 illegal migrants, plus their 300,000 kids and
grand-kids would move back 'home', mostly to Mexico . That would save
Coloradans an estimated $2 billion (other experts say $7 billion)
annually in taxes that pay for schooling, medical, social-services and
incarceration costs. It means 12,000gang members would vanish out of Denver alone.
Colorado would save more than $20 million in prison costs, and the
terror that those 7,300 alien criminals set upon local citizens. Denver
Officer Don Young and hundreds of Colorado victims would not have
suffered death, accidents, rapes and other crimes by illegals.Denver Public Schools would not suffer a 67% drop-out/flunk-out rate
because of thousands of illegal alien students speaking 41 different
languages. At least 200,000 vehicles would vanish from our gridlocked
cities in Colorado . Denver 's 4% unemployment rate would vanish as
our working poor would gain jobs at a living wage.In Florida , 1.5 million illegals would return the Sunshine State
back to America , the rule of law, and English.In Chicago , Illinois , 2.1 million illegals would free up hospitals,
schools, prisons and highways for a safer, cleaner and more crime-free
experience.If 20 million illegal aliens returned 'home', the U.S. Economy would
return to the rule of law. Employers would hire legal American citizens
at a living wage. Everyone would pay their fair share of taxes because
they wouldn't be working off the books. That would result in an
additional $401 Billion in IRS income taxes collected annually, and an
equal amount for local, state and city coffers.No more push '1' for Spanish or '2' for English. No more confusion in
American schools that now must contend with over 100 languages that
degrade the educational system for American kids. Our over-crowded
schools would lose more than two million illegal alien kids at a cost of
billions in ESL and free breakfasts and lunches.We would lose 500,000 illegal criminal alien inmates at a cost of more
than $16 billion annually. That includes 15,000 MS-13 gang members who
distribute $130 billion in drugs annually would vacate our country.In cities like L.A. , 20,000 members of the ' 18th Street Gang' would
vanish from our nation. No more Mexican forgery gangs for ID theft from
Americans! No more foreign rapists and child molesters!Losing more than 20 million people would clear up our crowded highways
and gridlock. Cleaner air and less drinking and driving American deaths
by illegal aliens!America's economy is drained. Taxpayers are harmed. Employers get rich.
Over $80 billion annually wouldn't return to the aliens' home countries
by cash transfers. Illegal migrants earned half that money untaxed,
which further drains America 's economy which currently suffers an $8.7
trillion debt.
$8.7 trillion debt.At least 400,000 anchor babies would not be born in our country, costing
us $109 billion per year per cycle. At least 86 hospitals in California
, Georgia and Florida would still be operating instead of being
bankrupt out of existence because illegals pay nothing via the EMTOLA
Act.Americans wouldn't suffer thousands of TB and hepatitis cases rampant in
our country-brought in by illegals unscreened at our borders.Our cities would see 20 million less people driving, polluting and grid
locking our cities. It would also put the 'progressives' on the horns of
a dilemma; illegal aliens and their families cause 11% of our greenhouse
gases.Over one million of Mexico's poorest citizens now live inside and along
our border from Brownsville, Texas to San Diego, California in what the
New York Times called, 'colonias' or new neighborhoods. Trouble is,
those living areas resemble Bombayand Calcutta where grinding poverty,
filth, diseases, drugs, crimes, no sanitation and worse. They live
without sewage, clean water, streets, roads, electricity, or any kind of
sanitation.The New York Times reported them to be America 's new ' Third World '
inside our own country. Within 20 years, at their current growth rate,
they expect 20 million residents of those colonias. (I've seen them
personally in Texas and Arizona ; it's sickening beyond anything you can
imagine.)By enforcing our laws, we could repatriate them back to Mexico . We
should invite 20 million aliens to go home, fix their own countries
and/or make a better life in Mexico . We already invite a million people
into our country legally more than all other countries combined
annually. We cannot and must not allow anarchy at our borders, more
anarchy within our borders and growing lawlessness at every level in our
nation. It's time to stand up for our country, our culture, our
civilization and our way of life.Interesting Statistics!
Here are 14 reasons illegal aliens should vacate America, and I hope
they are forwarded over and over again until they are read so many times
that the reader gets sick of reading them:-
$14 billion to $22 billion dollars are spent each year on welfare to
illegal aliens.(that's Billion with a 'B') -http://tinyurl.com/zob77 -
$2.2 billion dollars are spent each year on food assistance programs
such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens.
http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html -
$7.5 billion dollars are spent each year on Medicaid for illegal
aliens. http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html -
$12 billion dollars are spent each year on primary and secondary
school education for children here illegally and they still cannot speak
a word of English!
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP...01/ldt.01.html -
$27 billion dollars are spent each year for education for the
American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP...01/ldt.01.html -
$3 Million Dollars 'PER DAY' is spent to incarcerate illegal aliens.
That's $1.2 Billion a
year.http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP...01/ldt.01.html -
28% percent of all federal prison inmates are illegal aliens.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP...01/ldt.01.html -
$190 billion dollars are spent each year on illegal aliens for
welfare & social services by the American taxpayers.
-http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0610/29/ldt.01.html -
$200 billion dollars per year in suppressed American wages are caused
by the illegal aliens.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP...01/ldt.01.html -
The illegal aliens in the United States have a crime rate that's two
and a half times that of white non-illegal aliens. In particular, their
children, are going to make a huge additional crime problem in the US ..
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP...12/ldt.01.html -
During the year 2005, there were 8 to 10 MILLION illegal aliens that
crossed our southern border with as many as 19,500 illegal aliens from
other terrorist countries. Over 10,000 of those were middle-eastern
terrorists. Millions of pounds of drugs, cocaine, meth, heroine, crack,
Guns, and marijuana crossed into the U.S.from the southern border.
http://tinyurl.com/t9sht http://tinyurl.com/t9sht -
The National Policy Institute, estimates that the total cost of mass
deportation would be between $206 and $230 billion, or an average cost
of between $41 and $46 billion annually over a five year period and
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-http://www.nationalpolicyinstitute./.org/publications.php?b=deportation -
In 2006, illegal aliens sent home $65 BILLION in remittances back to
their countries of origin, to their families and friends.
http://www.rense.com/general75/niht.htm -
The dark side of illegal immigration: Nearly one million sex crimes
are committed by illegal immigrants in the United States!
http://www.drdsk.com/articleshtml http://www.drdsk.com/articleshtml
Total cost a whopping $538.3 BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR!
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i don't want to nor do i think we should even talk about kicking illegals out. Whats so hard to secure the borders and start the mass checking for papers. fucking done
Your illegal your either sent back or become a citizen.
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Believe it or not, citizenship is harder to attain than you might expect. I know a young man who lived here illegally for somewhere in the 18-22 year range, and finally chose to pursue legal citizenship when he wanted to marry someone who lives here as a citizen. That was about 5 years ago, and he's been having some serious problems.
He's married to a citizen, but that doesn't guarantee acceptance. He has children with that same young lady, but that doesn't guarantee acceptance. He has been gainfully employed and a pro/am boxer, but that doesn't guarantee acceptance. Citizenship is a more tangled web than you are told.
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It's hard to get citizenship in the USA no matter who you are.
The main problem, as identified above, is the high cost of providing the welfare-state to all comers. It's not sustainable. We can tear it apart carefully in small peices, or we can wait for the US to default, the dollar to collapse, and society to collapse with it.
But either way, it's coming apart.
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[QUOTE=Jim;311780]lol oh god... here we go again.
It's not that I LIKE or CONDONE Illegal immigrants here, as I've said in previous threads, its fucking unfair.
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This, and the part where it says our schools having to teach other languages and shit, GOD FORBID our kids had a little culture in their life and learned about some of it. Cause you know, if its not the american way, its not the right way.... Right deep south??
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out there;311846 wrote:
Believe it or not, citizenship is harder to attain than you might expect. I know a young man who lived here illegally for somewhere in the 18-22 year range, and finally chose to pursue legal citizenship when he wanted to marry someone who lives here as a citizen. That was about 5 years ago, and he's been having some serious problems.He's married to a citizen, but that doesn't guarantee acceptance. He has children with that same young lady, but that doesn't guarantee acceptance. He has been gainfully employed and a pro/am boxer, but that doesn't guarantee acceptance. Citizenship is a more tangled web than you are told.
So he comes here illegally, gets a girl knocked up gets married, and expects to gain citizenship just because of that. People do get citizenship if they want it. They have to work for it. Not get everything handed to them. Im sure its no cakewalk to get citizenship in any other country, how about you get out of this one and find out?
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Bp-08;311903 wrote:
So he comes here illegally, gets a girl knocked up gets married, and expects to gain citizenship just because of that. People do get citizenship if they want it. They have to work for it. Not get everything handed to them. Im sure its no cakewalk to get citizenship in any other country, how about you get out of this one and find out?Where did he say he expects it? Also, where does it say he knocked her up first...maybe he did, maybe he didn't...either way he is married to the girl.
He's trying to make things right and do the right thing. He's trying to head down the right path. The facts are that it is infinitely easier to continue to be an illegal alien than it is to become a citizen.
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Trafik Jamz;311906 wrote:
Where did he say he expects it? Also, where does it say he knocked her up first...maybe he did, maybe he didn't...either way he is married to the girl.He's trying to make things right and do the right thing. He's trying to head down the right path. The facts are that it is infinitely easier to continue to be an illegal alien than it is to become a citizen.
It implies he expects it. I never "specifically" said that he got her knocked up first if you want to be that way.
And its not impossible to become a citizen, so it shouldn't matter if its harder or not.
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Bp-08;311903 wrote:
So he comes here illegally, gets a girl knocked up gets married
Bp-08 wrote:
I never "specifically" said that he got her knocked up first if you want to be that way.
That's specific enough for me.Bp-08 wrote:
...and expects to gain citizenship just because of that. People do get citizenship if they want it. They have to work for it. Not get everything handed to them.
He used the proper forms, talked to all the right people, and still got the run around. Do you have a better answer? No, because you are just interested in looking like the tough American.I am not a part of the frustrations happening to this young man, but I do know that he speaks good English (bonus!), has been working consistently since 14 (bonus!), and is married to a legal citizen (bonus!). He has been deported since trying to attain legal citizenship, and is continuing to have difficulties getting citizenship here.
Whether the woman was knocked-up or not is immaterial, what matters is that he chose to try doing things the "right" way, and he's being punished.
its not impossible to become a citizen, so it shouldn't matter if its harder or not.
Ever done any research on the difficulties of becoming a Swiss citizen? German? Finnish? It's very hard. There is such a thing as a point of diminishing returns, and that point is reached for many people.I suggest that you stop posting in this thread, you contradicted yourself, and you don't make sense.
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Bp-08;311903 wrote:
Im sure its no cakewalk to get citizenship in any other country, how about you get out of this one and find out?out there;311910 wrote:
Ever done any research on the difficulties of becoming a Swiss citizen? German? Finnish? It's very hard. There is such a thing as a point of diminishing returns, and that point is reached for many people.............
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By "very hard", I was referring to the differences between becoming a citizen of any of the aforementioned countries vs the USA.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_nationality_law
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_nationality_law
Finnish citizenship is nearly impossible, without the right connections.
http://www.migri.fi/netcomm/content.asp?path=8,2477,2549,2555By comparison, American citizenship is supposed to be a cakewalk.
http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.eb1d4c2a3e5b9ac89243c6a7543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=d84d6811264a3210VgnVCM100000b92ca60aRCRD&vgnextchannel=d84d6811264a3210VgnVCM100000b92ca60aRCRD -
out there;311919 wrote:
By "very hard", I was referring to the differences between becoming a citizen of any of the aforementioned countries vs the USA.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_nationality_law
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_nationality_law
Finnish citizenship is nearly impossible, without the right connections.
http://www.migri.fi/netcomm/content.asp?path=8,2477,2549,2555By comparison, American citizenship is supposed to be a cakewalk.
http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.eb1d4c2a3e5b9ac89243c6a7543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=d84d6811264a3210VgnVCM100000b92ca60aRCRD&vgnextchannel=d84d6811264a3210VgnVCM100000b92ca60aRCRDOk then quit bitching that your mexican friend is having a hard time getting in.
You know he can live in mexico, its not like they are kicking him out.....
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Bp-08;311968 wrote:
You know he can live in mexico, its not like they are kicking him out.....The same can be said for all of our relatives that immigrated here. Why did they come? For opportunities not available to them in their home country. Or are you saying it's ok for Europeans to immigrate to the US but not for anyone else?
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01tib;311976 wrote:
this thread went into fail with bp08s posts... sorry man but you do sound like a jackass right now.Shut the fuck up logan. Go join your mexican friends back in arizona. You know im a jackass. Your cool with me man but dont be kissing people ass.
Btw im American Indian so ......
Oh and im saying its ok for anyone to immigrate her legally.
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