Prototype Parts Vehicles Needed

[PSI2HI]

StangerBanger96 wrote:
Seriously tufte if you were to create an easier and cheaper way for modular 4.6ers to turbo their cars you could make a mint. Right now a kit with everything needed costs around 6-8 grand minimum, while people who have welding and fabbing skills have custom fabbed similar kits for close to 2500. Guarantee you that if you made it a more user friendly option like most of the current supercharger kits out on the market and in the same price range...you'd make a killing.

I could easily see a 8cyl kit going for $6k and easy $8k if it were twins, there's twic as many parts and twice as much work. A nice quality 4 cyl kit can easlily get up in the $4-5k range. Top quality parts aren't cheap especially when you start using SS and alum. Gotta remember i gotta get paid for my time to.

But for right now we're looking for mass production kits. I'll do some research into the 4.6 stuff and think about it.

[24valvenotak]

single turbo kit for a vr4

[PSI2HI]

92BlackTT wrote:
single turbo kit for a vr4

We already discussed this last summer.

[24valvenotak]

i remember, i was hoping you forgot about the 8k dollar price tag that went along with it.

[STiSchucky]

what was the sti kit again? 3500? that was just a ballpark price tho

[PSI2HI]

STiSchucky wrote:
what was the sti kit again? 3500? that was just a ballpark price tho

Don't recall ever quoting a price as i never even looked @ it cuz you bought computer instead.

[STiSchucky]

you told kevin it one day back in august i believe

[PSI2HI]

STiSchucky wrote:
you told kevin it one day back in august i believe

Like i remember anything from August.

And Mitch when did it become 8k?

[aliengotpsi]

kirk for you its full full full retail...

[Guest]

maybe even double retail...

[wa2fastcamaro]

So what would it cost me to have a turbo kit done for a 2.8 V6 Fiero? If its reasonable I may need one and would know at least a few dozon people that would want one too.

[PSiedTSi]

wa2fastcamaro wrote:
So what would it cost me to have a turbo kit done for a 2.8 V6 Fiero? If its reasonable I may need one and would know at least a few dozon people that would want one too.

find a wrecked turbo grand prix and use those parts...bolt right on...you can use any T2 series turbo...and if you want you could always change the flange to a T3....the only thing different you would have to do is the IC piping

[wa2fastcamaro]

PSiedTSi wrote:
find a wrecked turbo grand prix and use those parts...bolt right on...you can use any T2 series turbo...and if you want you could always change the flange to a T3....the only thing different you would have to do is the IC piping

I guess I forgot about those Grand Prix's, but mainly I was asking about custom stainless maifolds.

[PSI2HI]

wa2fastcamaro wrote:
So what would it cost me to have a turbo kit done for a 2.8 V6 Fiero? If its reasonable I may need one and would know at least a few dozon people that would want one too.

I have no idea, cant say i've ever even looked @ a fiero.

[wa2fastcamaro]

I might just have to bring one by sometime, I only have 9 of them. I would love to have a turbo 2.5 4cyl kit, but I am not sure those old 2.5 gm engines can handle a turbo.

Mike

PSI2HI wrote:
I have no idea, cant say i've ever even looked @ a fiero.

[StangerBanger96]

PSI2HI wrote:
I could easily see a 8cyl kit going for $6k and easy $8k if it were twins, there's twic as many parts and twice as much work. A nice quality 4 cyl kit can easlily get up in the $4-5k range. Top quality parts aren't cheap especially when you start using SS and alum. Gotta remember i gotta get paid for my time to.

But for right now we're looking for mass production kits. I'll do some research into the 4.6 stuff and think about it.

Alright. The only drawback is that 4.6 internals are the weakest thing known to mankind. We blow pistons through blocks like no tomorrow when any boost is added to our cars it seems like (without forging). This right here is the main reason I even ask for you to do this...this custom turbo setup looks pretty sweet for only 1800-2000$ and all DIY.
http://forums.stangnet.com/showthread.php?t=571566&page=14

Yeah I realize you'd be making exhaust manifolds/headers so this kit would be nothing like a setup you'd be fabbing for, but still, it just makes me want to throw a turbo on my car all the more. 5lbs of boost and the guy was making 360 i think it was.

[PSI2HI]

StangerBanger96 wrote:
Alright. The only drawback is that 4.6 internals are the weakest thing known to mankind. We blow pistons through blocks like no tomorrow when any boost is added to our cars it seems like (without forging). This right here is the main reason I even ask for you to do this...this custom turbo setup looks pretty sweet for only 1800-2000$ and all DIY.
http://forums.stangnet.com/showthread.php?t=571566&page=14

Yeah I realize you'd be making exhaust manifolds/headers so this kit would be nothing like a setup you'd be fabbing for, but still, it just makes me want to throw a turbo on my car all the more. 5lbs of boost and the guy was making 360 i think it was.

Well i can see how he only spent $2k because no offense or anything but that looks gross.

[StangerBanger96]

haha yeah it's not the prettiest thing thats for sure. Either way, the fact that it's possible to make turbo kits for 2000 is a good sign. 1000-2000 markup on that and you'd compete with every supercharger kit available as well as blow any turbo competition out as well. I know a lot of people (mustang-wise)aren't too picky about how decent the kit looks so long as it gives them boost/power. Sure we don't want a totally ghetto looking setup either (which that is fairly but still...gotta give him props for doing it) but people like me will take what we can get on our limited budgets.

[PSI2HI]

Yeah but you realized he used old school used junkayd turbo's which he paid probbaly $100 each for i guess i didn't pay attention to what wastegate, looks like a Ebay FMIC. Just using new quality parts will easily add on another $2k.

[dubbsy]

Yeah, $4000 would be pushing it on the ~cheap~ side of a decent SN95 turbo setup. Fabricating decent exhaust manifolds is challenge #1 (which that guy didn't do obviously) as there isn't an abundant amount of room in there (which translates into higher costs).

As for 4.6L internals holding up.. it's all in the tuning. (I've got a buddy who put down over 300/400 IIRC with a M90 on top of a stock rotating assembly)