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  • RidinRailsR Offline
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    RidinRails
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    i thought switching over to a manual took quite a bit of time to do....

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      PSI2HI
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      It's definatly no little job, there's a lot of parts swapping to be done.

      "Just because you know it all doesn't mean you can do it all"

      "If you can't afford to do it right the first time can you afford to do it a second time?"

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        Fitzy
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        Truthfully it kind of sucks to do it. Its not the thing for a newbie to try.

        2002 Honda S2000
        2006 Dodge Ram CTD

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          treimche
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          I'm pretty sure Fitzy and I could do it for ya. I remember Fitzy pretty much did all the work when Fradete's car was swapped to a 5spd.

          Troy
          2009 Yamaha R1
          2002 WRX
          2001 Toyota Tundra
          2001 Yamaha R6
          1988 Yamaha YSR 50
          2003 XR50

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            #14

            just get a built tranny and a high stall TC.....at least thats what I would do

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              KA-T_240
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              PSI2HI wrote:
              It's definatly no little job, there's a lot of parts swapping to be done.

              very very true, and you also have to find all of the parts

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                Bryce
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                Do it Jason, it would be the best upgrade you could do!

                Then... Turbo:D

                88 Honda crx Si-B16 turbo street car, 06 Civic Si- DD

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                  PSI2HI wrote:
                  Haha, and like u have a fucking clue!!

                  since i've started working there, we have done at least 2 auto to man. trans swaps, and i think i have a clue on whats going on there Nick.
                  Not only that, he ask for a place to go, so i told him were to go and see what it would cost. and why do you have to be an ass to everyone that say go to tintmasters and get a quote, you don't see me ever flame your company or any of your work.

                  > Trafik Jamz;299122 wrote:
                  > But Freitag is a slut....everyone knows this!

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                    ....how was he bein an ass to jason? that was just a personal shot at you...not tm

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                      fanaticrockford
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                      Jason have you looked into just buying a manual and selling your auto?

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                        King Ricer
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                        STiSchucky wrote:
                        ....how was he bein an ass to jason? that was just a personal shot at you...not tm

                        i wasn't saying he was an ass to Jason, i knew he was being an ass to me.

                        > Trafik Jamz;299122 wrote:
                        > But Freitag is a slut....everyone knows this!

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                          97Cav wrote:
                          i wasn't saying he was an ass to Jason, i knew he was being an ass to me.
                          nvm read it wrong.

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                            FASTER THAN DUBBSY

                            > thrash;315544 wrote:
                            > I noticed that the new 5.0 valve covers say "Ford Motorsport" or something on them. Instead, the valvecovers should be a big bald eagle, holding a rifle in one talon, an american flag in the other, eating apple pie, and shitting on the outline of europe.
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                            > Ford is back :)

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                              C'mon guys, chill out and just for once give answers to the question without flaming each other. You can go to SLS, Tintmasters, or one of the reputable transmission shops in town. I would def recommend one of the first two I mentioned though because of the specialty nature of the project. Most regular shops and transmission shops wont even touch what your attempting because they don't want to deal with the liability.

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                                HandoEX
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                                fanaticrockford wrote:
                                Jason have you looked into just buying a manual and selling your auto?
                                Well, here's the story...
                                Last fall my tranny started to slip when it is cold. After a lot of research on Honda-tech, it sounds like this is very common in 6th gen Accords caused by degrading clutch packs leading to a clogged filter (which is not accessible with out taking apart the tranny). Before I proceed with any rash decisions, I'm gonna have a diagnosis of the problem done somewhere here in town to see just what the problem(s) actually is(are).
                                So it looks like my options may be: fix this auto tranny, buy a new auto tranny, or swap to a 5 speed. Apparently, fixing this tranny will cost a shit load of money ($1.5-$2k according to honda-tech) and buying a new one will cost even more( honda-tech says upwords of $2.5-$3k). If the difference in price is not too drastic between sticking with an auto or swapping out to a manual, I see no reason why I shouldn't go with a 5-speed, especially considering that replacing one 6th gen auto tranny with another still leaves the risk of the new tranny taking a dump on me (they were all pretty much junk). Apparently, f22, f23, h22, and h23 trannies can all be applied to this swap, with none having anywhere near the problems of the f23 auto tranny.
                                So as you can see, unfortunately it's a little more complicated than just selling this car for another one...
                                Has anyone on Fargostreet had an auto to manual swap done?

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                                  integra_gsr98
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                                  If you remember "spoolude" I did an auto->manual trans. swap in that thing when the H22 went into it.

                                  Tufte did one in Chuck's old prelude. Roadsounds did one in a 4 door civic not long after I quit, Dave did one in his NA-T, I've done older crxs/integras.

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                                    PSI2HI
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                                    I've done a couple.

                                    You can find either a auto or manual trans for your Accord for under $1000 w/ around 50-60k or so on it.

                                    Im not pushing you away from a 5 spd swap @ all but i guarntee you will have A LOT more $$ into it all said and done. If your doing it cuz you got plans to maybe turbo or something big and are looking for the extra strength, then go for it. If your doing it just because your auto trans is going out and you just want a daily driver i'd just replace the auto.

                                    Even if you bought some of the most expensice auto trans i saw which were around $1500-1600 + anywhere from 8-10 hours of labor depending the options on your vehicle your gonna have right around $2000 into it.

                                    5spd swap trans were going anywhere from $600-1400 depending on mileage. You will need to purchase a clutch pedal assembly, shifter assembly, linkages, master cylinder, slave cylinder, clutch, flywheel, hydraulic lines, axles etc.. You can nmow figure in that 8-10 hours to remove your auto/trq converter, etc, and replace it w/ that manual/clutch/flywheel. 1 hour labor for the master cylinder, 1 hour for the slave cylinder, 1 hour to run the hydrualic lines, 1.5 hours for the clutch pedal assembly/clutch switch, 2 hours for shifter assmebly and linkages. Now figure in the parts cost for whats listed above. This should give you a rough idea for a cost comparison for doing the swap to replacing w/ another auto.

                                    "Just because you know it all doesn't mean you can do it all"

                                    "If you can't afford to do it right the first time can you afford to do it a second time?"

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                                      PSI2HI
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                                      One of the big cost kickers is gonna depend on what you do for a clutch and flywheel.

                                      "Just because you know it all doesn't mean you can do it all"

                                      "If you can't afford to do it right the first time can you afford to do it a second time?"

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                                        HandoEX
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                                        The crappy part is I don't want to put a used auto tranny into this car since the failure rate is absolutely ridiculous.

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                                          I had the tranny in my 88 prelude swapped from auto to manual by Type-R about 5 years ago, so yes, people on here have had it done.

                                          I have also had my auto tranny built for about $1500 by Aamco and I have also had the high stall TC done by ProTorque. Depending on your reasoning for doing the swap (racing?) you might be better off doing a rebuild of the stock tranny w/ modified valvebodies and a high stall Torque Converter.

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