Fuck you
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Acceleration times from a Renault F1 car (100kph = 62mph):
0 to 100 km/h: 1.9 seconds
0 to 200 km/h: 3.9 seconds
0 to 300 km/h: 8.4 seconds, may be slightly more or less depending on the aerodynamic setup"top end in a pushrod is thrashy at best" must have read that on some import internet site, since you haven't driven a well done v8."
I have not driven a V8, but I have ridden in a friends GTP at full whack. And VTEC/VVT can sound quite nice when not hooked up to a fart can. In the end it depends on what your preference is.
"and say you just like a motor better because you know somehow that ohc motors are better even though its less powerful"
Depends on the application. How about a V12 Ferrari vs. a Camaro?
As I see it when you buy a Camaro, you get around 300hp from the factory. When you buy a CRX, you get a little over 100hp. Now look at what seanjohn has done for example (built LS/VTEC), and he is looking for high 12s all motor.
It's easy to have a fast car when it already came fast from the factory before you modded it. Now making a slow-from-the-factory 4-cyl fast, that's much more worthy of praise in my book.
To each their own! I'm done on the subject.
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USAlx50 wrote:
WERD, new z06s suck, pushrods and shit..."lightweight titanium internals" haha yeah ok.. Im sure they help but will do nothing compared to the gearing it will take to take advantage of that kind of powerband.
I'm not argueing the fact of the ohc superiority, but its kind of pointless to spend more to go slower and say you just like a motor better because you know somehow that ohc motors are better even though its less powerful. I know id rather swap out one cam then 2 or 4.
"top end in a pushrod is thrashy at best" must have read that on some import internet site, since you haven't driven a well done v8. I do agree that the top end on a stock 5.0 sucks, still rather have one then a fwd tqless import though. I'll take the song of an ls1 up top over the "song" of a vtec weed wacking away anyday.
Getting high hp out of a small engine is impressive but Ill take a faster car that hasn't maxed out its displacements potential any day of the week.
btw, a lot of I6's are pretty cool
i like the song of my 4g63 smoking 99% of the mustangs on the road.....
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Out of hand, and all over the place.
Who cares really. If you are an automotive enthusiast, as such are on this site, then little things like "my E-penis push rod is lighter than your E-vagina weedwaker vtak" would not get your panties in a uproar. Obviously this topic has been talked to death numerous times, so do a search and read all the old filth. Quit making CMK's day.
God what garbage
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nissankingcab wrote:
I have not driven a V8, but I have ridden in a friends GTP at full whack.That is nothing like a V8 sports car. For one its FWD, and two, its a V6 and doesn't have the same feel as an 8. Don't knock it till you try it.
BTW, GTPs are weaksauce. I walked a GTP in my slowstang.
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MisterCMK wrote:
That is nothing like a V8 sports car. For one its FWD, and two, its a V6 and doesn't have the same feel as an 8. Don't knock it till you try it.BTW, GTPs are weaksauce. I walked a GTP in my slowstang.
I was making a reference to pushrod engines at high end, that was all, I was not trying to knock on V8 sports cars. Not saying that a GTP can account for all pushrod engines, which it can't, but rather that they share an inherent inferiority to OHC engines in the high end.
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MisterCMK wrote:
BTW, GTPs are weaksauce. I walked a GTP in my slowstang.What does a stock SN95 5.0 5spd run? Just out of curiousity...
GTPs are really hit and miss, depending on how well they were taken care of since new. Some are as slow as mid 15's and some as fast as mid 14's stock...which really isn't horrible for a FWD Auto V6 car weighing 3800lbs or so....
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nissankingcab wrote:
People will always stand by what they drive and argue until eternity on the subject. I'm merely stating these things as my opinion and nothing more. Everyone has the right to enjoy their car no matter what it has for an engine. (Although we all know I6s are the best anyway :icon_thumright:)Done and done. Well stated.
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PSiedTSi wrote:
What does a stock SN95 5.0 5spd run? Just out of curiousity...GTPs are really hit and miss, depending on how well they were taken care of since new. Some are as slow as mid 15's and some as fast as mid 14's stock...which really isn't horrible for a FWD Auto V6 car weighing 3800lbs or so....
It really depends on the car. Most stock SN95 5.0 with a 5spd will run high 14s and an auto will be low 15s. I ran a 14.375 stock, so I have a factory freak.
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wannabe wrote:
a mustang isn't really considered a sports car IMO, just a redneck ferrari!what is up with you these days? You seem so damn angry..........I think you have ripped on everybody you have talked in the last couple of days.
Mister CMK- No arguments here. Both cars have poetential.......it is just the fact that not many mustangs on the road in the FM area do anything about it and are usually stock.
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MisterCMK wrote:
It really depends on the car. Most stock SN95 5.0 with a 5spd will run high 14s and an auto will be low 15s. I ran a 14.375 stock, so I have a factory freak.Pimp, that is a decent freak then because I always hear how slow they are. Not too bad.
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PSiedTSi wrote:
Pimp, that is a decent freak then because I always hear how slow they are. Not too bad.4 cyl Mustangs = slow, 6 cyl Mustangs = slow, 8 cyl Mustangs = not slow.
His is an oddball though... typically they are not low 14 second cars. He hasn't been able to duplicate those times since though... maybe the timing equipment was faulty that day.
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50stang wrote:
4 cyl Mustangs = slow, 6 cyl Mustangs = slow, 8 cyl Mustangs = not slow.
His is an oddball though... typically they are not low 14 second cars. He hasn't been able to duplicate those times since though... maybe the timing equipment was faulty that day.Fawk that, it was so fucking hot and humid last track day.
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