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    1st Gen DSM's have the prefered 6bolt 4G63 block in that it is not prone to crank walk, unlike 2nd Gen DSM's which are 7bolt 4G63's. I'm by no means a DSM guru, and there are many on this board with vast amounts of knowledge in that category....that is the very abridged answer to your question however.

    IIRC, the 2G dsm has superior pistons though.

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      6 bolt = motor from 1st gen(90-94) eclipse/talon/lazer
      7 bolt = Motor from 2nd Gen(95-99) eclipse/talon
      This number refers to how many flywheel bolts hold the flywheel to the crankshaft.

      no race car? becuz homeowner...

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        wannabe wrote:
        6 bolt = motor from 1st gen(90-94) eclipse/talon/lazer
        7 bolt = Motor from 2nd Gen(95-99) eclipse/talon
        This number refers to how many flywheel bolts hold the flywheel to the crankshaft.

        Wrong. 6 bolt motor=1st gen motor from 89-92.5
        7 bolt motor=1st and 2nd gen motor from 92.5-99

        At first I did it for fun, then I realized I made the investment and had to do it!

        92 Talon AWD 6/4bolt [EMAIL="[email protected]"][email protected][/EMAIL]
        95 240SX SE SR20DET [EMAIL="[email protected]"][email protected][/EMAIL]
        1993.5 Supra Hardtop...Sold
        Next project? 6cyl, 6spd?

        > spanish-rice;237125 wrote:
        > at first i thought the title said beer truck drivers needed... In which case i accidently put my two weeks in at work.

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          damn... owned!

          no race car? becuz homeowner...

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            Couple of more questions, what is Crank walking, and this may be a dumb question but what does "DSM" stand for?

            Current Cars:
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            3 level Avionics and test station components Apprentice.

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              DSM - Diamond Star Motors....nice the mitsu sign

              crank walk means your crank is moving up and down or side to side and it shouldnt be....just a short definition.

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                This is crankwalk right here:

                legacy image

                Crankwalk is when the thrust bearing gets worn out due to shitty manufacturing tolerances and shitty parts (crank, block, bearings), and the crankshaft gets pushed around by the clutch. There's no up and down movement, that happens when you spin main bearings, but it's side to side play.

                Troy
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                2002 WRX
                2001 Toyota Tundra
                2001 Yamaha R6
                1988 Yamaha YSR 50
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                  treimche wrote:
                  This is crankwalk right here:

                  legacy image

                  Crankwalk is when the thrust bearing gets worn out due to shitty manufacturing tolerances and shitty parts (crank, block, bearings), and the crankshaft gets pushed around by the clutch. There's no up and down movement, that happens when you spin main bearings, but it's side to side play.

                  Nice picture, made me laugh my ass off. More specific, crank walk is side to side LATERALLY (length wise) with the block, otherwise would be spinning the bearings too.

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                    oh I see... So as far as the 6 bolt and 7 bolt which is better to have and is on more powerful than the other? Hope I am not annoying anyone... Lol

                    Current Cars:
                    2004 Scion xA

                    3 level Avionics and test station components Apprentice.

                    Airman First Class Nelson

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                      6 bolt. It isn't "more powerful" as such, but it can take a better beating.

                      At first I did it for fun, then I realized I made the investment and had to do it!

                      92 Talon AWD 6/4bolt [EMAIL="[email protected]"][email protected][/EMAIL]
                      95 240SX SE SR20DET [EMAIL="[email protected]"][email protected][/EMAIL]
                      1993.5 Supra Hardtop...Sold
                      Next project? 6cyl, 6spd?

                      > spanish-rice;237125 wrote:
                      > at first i thought the title said beer truck drivers needed... In which case i accidently put my two weeks in at work.

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                        the 6 bolt is prefered since it tends not to have the crankwalk issues.

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                          And also stronger rods than the 95+ 7 bolts.

                          Troy
                          2009 Yamaha R1
                          2002 WRX
                          2001 Toyota Tundra
                          2001 Yamaha R6
                          1988 Yamaha YSR 50
                          2003 XR50

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                            but weaker pistons

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                              There's also the nearly crankwalk proof seven bolt EVO I-III motors..

                              2005 Mercedes-Benz C240 4Matic
                              1993 Mazda Rx-7 Twin Turbo (sold)

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                                "Nearly" crankwalk proof...lol.....that's ok...sounds like torbs has a good deal for me so it sounds like torbs's 3 year project is going to be my 3 month project. Dad is an aircraft mechanic and a major gear head so it sounds like I might be able to get the motor/transmission put in fairly soon as soon as I get down there. I'm stoked...lol

                                Current Cars:
                                2004 Scion xA

                                3 level Avionics and test station components Apprentice.

                                Airman First Class Nelson

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