Bad Luck
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Turbo5Oh wrote:
or cause ur death in some cases:roll:
in 6 years I've been with volly EMS/Fire I have never seen an instance where a seatbelt did or would have caused a fatality. however I have seen multiple cases where a seatbelt would have prevented a LOT of injury - anywhere from being ejected 60+ feet or having appendages pinned under the vehicle.
the only time I can think of where a seatbelt would be a problem is in a water accident - mind you the seatbelt probably kept you from being knocked unconcious when you hit the water.
Yeah, I wear my seatbelt everywhere I go - it takes me all of 2 seconds. Hell, I do it purely out of habit now.
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PSiedTSi wrote:
It's oddly the first thing I do when I get in a car for some weird reason.Yeah.
I actually feel weird driving around Fargo/Moorhead or anywhere inbetween without it. I will admit, I don't wear it when I'm back home driving to work (mainly because I don't want grease and shit from my shirt/jacket on the seatbelt)
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speaking of bad luck the last 4 times i've been pulled over i've been given a warning....but i've been buckled up everytime.
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dubbsy wrote:
:roll:in 6 years I've been with volly EMS/Fire I have never seen an instance where a seatbelt did or would have caused a fatality. however I have seen multiple cases where a seatbelt would have prevented a LOT of injury - anywhere from being ejected 60+ feet or having appendages pinned under the vehicle.
the only time I can think of where a seatbelt would be a problem is in a water accident - mind you the seatbelt probably kept you from being knocked unconcious when you hit the water.
Yeah, I wear my seatbelt everywhere I go - it takes me all of 2 seconds. Hell, I do it purely out of habit now.
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in my experience which is only one major accident i was told by the responding officer and the emt that if was wearing my sealtbelt i would be a lot worse off then i was, it was a roll over where the pass side is was sitting in was crushed down to almost the part of the seat where is ur ass sits, so the chances are if i was wearing my seatbelt i might not be arguing w/ u today
i also have a friend that was ejected from a wreck right before the car was turned into a small peice of metal from a 65-70 mph t-bone hit if he was still in the car it was almost certain he would have not been here today
so basicaly what im trying to say is if there is a law that says u have to do something not by free will the person or persons that made the law should be held responsible if this law can be proven to have caused a death
yes i understand that "most" of the time a seatbelt will save ur life but i dont think that somebody else has the right to make that decision for me
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You are right, no one should have the right to tell you you have to wear it, I agree with that. But if you get into an accident and are injured severely and it can be proven that your injuries could have been prevented by the use of a seat belt, your insurance company shouldn't have to pay for your medical bills. Or at least that's how they see it and why we have the laws and safety features we do in cars today. Basically so it costs insurance companies less money. Go Insurance Lobbyists! Not saying it's all bad, just a possible rambling explanation from someone who needs a smoke...
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97slowgsx wrote:
speaking of bad luck the last 4 times i've been pulled over i've been given a warning....but i've been buckled up everytime.knock on wood man, i've gotten a ticket every single time i've ever gotten pulled over...which would be 5 times (2 speed care bullshit, and one loud exhaust REALLY bullshit @ 8AM in the school parking lot making me late for class)...and i ALWAYS wear my belt too...for those of you who dont wear belts and use the excuse that it can sometimes kill you are stupid. The percentage of surviving with a belt is far greater than not...
I will never forget the time harwood got pulled over in moorhead and got a no seatbelt ticket because he had his race harness on...that was stupid (on the cops part IMO)
also, how are going through yellow lights bad?...if it yellow before you hit the crosswalk (stop line...w/e) i thought you were good to go?
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i dont have any woodgrain on my car to knock on though!!
but yeah i've been lucky everythings been going my way lately...
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u do have a strong point but i believe that insurance companies shouldnt be insuring the conditions of the accident but the accident itself, if they can pay for someone rear ending u sitting at a stop light in a "no fault state" they they can insure u for choosing not to wear ur seatbelt
well other then that i got nothing, i think ya got me with that one
torbs:i guess it was stupid of me to walk away from a bad high speed rollover instead of being taking out in a meat wagon....my bad
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Turbo5Oh wrote:
i also have a friend that was ejected from a wreck right before the car was turned into a small peice of metal from a 65-70 mph t-bone hit if he was still in the car it was almost certain he would have not been here today
Are you saying that since your friend got ejected and lived, that seat belts are unsafe? That is ridiculous. -
I also had a friend that wasnt buckled up and hit a deer at 70, then hit an approach he flew out of the car and the car landed right next to him he walked away...the car was completely smashed and he woudlve died if he wouldve stayed in the car...so in some instances not wearing a seatbelt can save you....not very likely though.
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did i say they are unsafe? yes the percentage of a seat belt helping in a wreck is greater then not, i have personaly experienced a non seatbelt wreck
but good job turning my words around :icon_thumleft:
this isnt and argument what is safer this has been gone through many times as u could tell by reading
its about being told u HAVE TO do something that should be ur decisionwhat is ridiclous is living ur life off a percentage :icon_salut:
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Turbo5Oh wrote:
did i say they are unsafe? yes the percentage of a seat belt helping in a wreck is greater then not, i have personaly experienced a non seatbelt wreckbut good job turning my words around :icon_thumleft:
this isnt and argument what is safer this has been gone through many times as u could tell by reading
its about being told u HAVE TO do something that should be ur decisionwhat is ridiclous is living ur life off a percentage :icon_salut:
QFT!!!
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torbs wrote:
I will never forget the time harwood got pulled over in moorhead and got a no seatbelt ticket because he had his race harness on...that was stupid (on the cops part IMO)Harwood got pulled over on 10th st during a Fargostreet cruise. His harnesses were illegal. They were chained!
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Wow talk bout a total backfire on a thread!!!!!No pity
Understeer is when you hit the wall with the front of the car
Oversteer is when you hit the wall with the rear of the car.
Horsepower is how fast you hit the wall
Torque is how far you take the wall with you
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