2008 Toyota Supra?
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JN607 wrote:
And up the price even more? Yea, good idea....not...I don't know, I just really think they ought to put the I6 back in there...Shit, even with a V6 its $40k, whats another $10k at that price level? Why use an old motor? Change has to happen dude.
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JN607 wrote:
I'm not scared of the power that it may have, I just don't think a supra should have a V8 in it. It's not what we have come to know the supra as.
I have "known the supra to become" a fast car I wont ever be able to afford. That changed? no I think not. -
The Supra's in JGTC run V8s, derived from the 1UZ-FE V8 that all the lexus cars get. Clearly a V8 supra is not only already a done deal, but it has far more racing pedigree than the 2JZ supra ever did.
Infact, the Supra mkIV and the Lexus SC/GS are the same platform (and the SC 300 uses a 2JZ non-turbo motor, but putting supra bits in it is a cool but not widely done move in the US)
I think part of the supra formula is forced induction. A bi-turbo V8 sounds fantastic, but i dont think that's in the cards.
It is highly unlikely they could put the old bi-turbo I6 back into production due to emissions reasons. They've also ditched the I6 platform in the Lexus IS series, which, when introduced here also ran a 2JZ NA VVTi engine.
Toyota bringing back a supra here at all, in any form, is a welcome move. Toyota has all but resigned themselves to making shitty appliance vehicles, with the Supra and MR2 being the only recent exceptions (and arguably the Celica GT-S, but i don't happen to like FWD so i don't consider it a real contender).
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JN607 wrote:
Because, why would they make a V8 Supra when the I6 2JZ motor made alot of power. I don't understand why you would want to buy a car with that much power to the wheels already. It's almost like it's already modded and there isn't much left to do...Seems like a waste to me...I think they should upgrade the I6, twin-turbo it again, and sell them as they were. They were/are gorgeous cars...They should keep them that way....Who cares what you think. That seems to be the consensus.
Stereotyping heavily.
This concept is not hard to grasp. Its competition will be more upscale than a Honda Civic and more like a Viper ( as stated elsewhere in the thread).
Other not mentioned possible reasons....
People that have that much money to throw around on a sports car don't care about the "potential it has", but rather the specs in the brochure. And to a potential buyer a V-8 is more eye appealing, to the American Market, than a V-6 turbo or not.
Also take into consideration NASCAR, like it or not Toyota does have its feet wet in that arena now and that may also have some influence on the engine of choice, not only for marketing but trickle down technology as well.
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I know no one on here cares what I think because for some strange reason not many people on here like me (for what reason I'm not all that sure) but I was merely stating an opinion. Yea, I know change has to happen, and obviously it has happened. If I had that much money, I probably would go and buy one myself. I just thought we could have a good discussion thread.
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2slo50h wrote:
Also take into consideration NASCAR, like it or not Toyota does have its feet wet in that arena now and that may also have some influence on the engine of choice, not only for marketing but trickle down technology as well.
LOL, IIRC, they had to use a single cam v8 built within certain specifications to meet nascrap rules. If anything is trickling down anywhere, it was the genes for intellegence on the leg of the father of whoever made the rules for nascar.That v8 supra is fine, and I bet if you compared todays dollars to when the mk4 supra was new, they wouldn't be all that far off, accounting for inflation. It's just an expensive car. Someone will make a turbo kit for the v8, no doubt. It'll make 2000 hp with bolt ons. Cause that's what supras are good for.
And burnouts.:rolleyes:
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