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wannabe wrote:
show me one streetable mustang in the fm area that will beat jeremy's talon? he will run mid tens all day long.
http://www.fargostreet.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6739&highlight=jeremy%27s
U said 100 percent, check yo-self.

Chris's pretty much stock 5.0 will beat it since it doesn't run :icon_tongue:

who said anything about the FM area? have you looked into xjheads project? I doubt he'll have any problems with dsm's if you want to bench race cars that aren't finished.. I would be turned off from this site if i had a fast mustang because it looks to be a bunch of ignorant rice loving kids. Not everyone in FM goes on fargostreet..

91nbtsi wrote:
It is rarely the motor that is breaking. It is usually the drivetrain that breaks. In fact...the motors can handle more power than the 5.0's, since they like to split in half:icon_geek: Obviously with more displacement you can make more power output. I dunno, my car was putting out about 275hp/lt and about 225ft-lb/lt to the wheels, pretty impressive I would say. That would be like a 5.0 putting out 1375hp and 1125ft-lb to the wheels, stock block, just pistons and rods. PS that is with just cams and valve springs in the head too. I never had a problem with the engine breaking; just gears stripping, transfer case shafts snapping, etc. Now, you build a monster V8 and it can make tons of power, more displacement gives you a ton of opportunity. But, you can't ignore the fact that technology is pretty impressive. Just my 2 cents:icon_pirat: .

:icon_thumright: I know they have alot of potential. I have a lot more respect for awd and rwd imports then fwd which i think is a joke even though there are some pretty crazy fast fwd cars out there. Those are impressive numbers..

nissankingcab wrote:
Acceleration times from a Renault F1 car (100kph = 62mph):

0 to 100 km/h: 1.9 seconds
0 to 200 km/h: 3.9 seconds
0 to 300 km/h: 8.4 seconds, may be slightly more or less depending on the aerodynamic setup

"top end in a pushrod is thrashy at best" must have read that on some import internet site, since you haven't driven a well done v8."

I have not driven a V8, but I have ridden in a friends GTP at full whack. And VTEC/VVT can sound quite nice when not hooked up to a fart can. In the end it depends on what your preference is.

"and say you just like a motor better because you know somehow that ohc motors are better even though its less powerful"

Depends on the application. How about a V12 Ferrari vs. a Camaro?

As I see it when you buy a Camaro, you get around 300hp from the factory. When you buy a CRX, you get a little over 100hp. Now look at what seanjohn has done for example (built LS/VTEC), and he is looking for high 12s all motor.

It's easy to have a fast car when it already came fast from the factory before you modded it. Now making a slow-from-the-factory 4-cyl fast, that's much more worthy of praise in my book.

To each their own! I'm done on the subject.

high 12s all motor are what ls1s do with very minor bolt ons.... so why do a whole motor swap/build to do it? I'm just saying why not have a car taht is factory fast and go faster yet, you could take a geo metro and make it faster but that would be stupid because its still slow. I guess i just like going fast instead of dumping money and time into a car with bad tq steer thats barely able to keep up with close to stock v8s. Lets praise you for making a slow car less slow and dealing with the tq steer and other bullshit along with it..

what v12 ferrrari are you talking about? try comparing a c6 zo6 vette performance with a 360 modena, along with the price tags..

99slowGSX wrote:
i like the song of my 4g63 smoking 99% of the mustangs on the road.....

:icon_thumleft: i have a friend who had a pretty cool moded talon that was quick so i mean no disrespect but i like the song of a lot of mustangs that smoke 100% of the talons on the road

WERD, new z06s suck, pushrods and shit...

"lightweight titanium internals" haha yeah ok.. Im sure they help but will do nothing compared to the gearing it will take to take advantage of that kind of powerband.

I'm not argueing the fact of the ohc superiority, but its kind of pointless to spend more to go slower and say you just like a motor better because you know somehow that ohc motors are better even though its less powerful. I know id rather swap out one cam then 2 or 4.

"top end in a pushrod is thrashy at best" must have read that on some import internet site, since you haven't driven a well done v8. I do agree that the top end on a stock 5.0 sucks, still rather have one then a fwd tqless import though. I'll take the song of an ls1 up top over the "song" of a vtec weed wacking away anyday.

Getting high hp out of a small engine is impressive but Ill take a faster car that hasn't maxed out its displacements potential any day of the week.

btw, a lot of I6's are pretty cool

nissankingcab wrote:
Thats the best part though. I would much rather have a V8 that revs to 19,000 than one that only revs to say 5500. Plus think of all the technology put into those engines, anyone can make 700hp out of a large displacement V8, but to do it out of a 2.4L one is simply amazing.

:icon_scratch: import sac riders confuse me... lets see, you could have 700 hp at your feet with a lot of tq to back it up or you can wait forever for your car to rev to make any power at all with HORRIBLE street manners. How do you think a 19000 rpm car idles?

Hey lets have a pain in the ass, barely able to tolerate on the street car because it revs high and has cool technology over one that tears ass anytime you feel like stomping on the loud pedal.:icon_thumleft: its all good though, when people make fun of you for stalling the car and how much of a dog it is when your trying to get from A to B you can just tell them "but it revs to 19k and has cool technology"

I'm not saying new tech and all that isn't cool, just that i see no reason to spend more for less.

Spoollude wrote:
Fuk you MR CMYK!

why can yoyu hate on my car when yours is twice the size engine wise it is not fair also even with half the engine my car can still kick yours ass h8er

Mabye you just need twice the cylinders to move your asss OHH GOT YOU GOOD

fag

so what you're saying is "I'm a fucktard for buying a motor with less displacement then some pop bottles and trying to make it fast, therefor i use my retardation as an excuse for losing like most ricers"

class goes till 730, had free beer and live music after that...

Pony_Racer wrote:
Welcome to the street man......you have to bring the stang out one last time damnit lol i want to see it

its down in the twin cities and needs a new fuel pump and possibly some other stuff, dont really have the time/money but I miss it already. I'll have er out in the spring for sure.

I'm sure you're right....seems like people up here have a big F@F style sticker fetish though.. I love your avatar and sig by the way.

TCS pwns joo!!!11!!!

Hi, I'm a soph. at ndsu and was told about this board from a fellow tcstanger. I'm from Plymouth, MN a twin cities suburb. I own a black/black 93 mustang lx 5.0 with a list of bolt ons and a nitrous kit i have been too lazy to hook up. Looking forward to meeting some of the car guys up here. There seems to be a lot of rice up and about