2wheeler wrote:
Thanks for the backup LT1, but I have been around fast CARS for quite a while so I feel I have a decent amount of knowledge about them.
Flowcus, just because I don't race a car, doesn't means I can't have an opinion on what is fast. I never said you have to run nines to be fast. I just don't feel 13s is "fast" anymore. It was in the mid 90s when we were all street racing. Back when Laske's mustang was still getting raced(jesus, anyone remember that?). The bar keeps getting raised. Look at how many cars you can buy brand new for under 40K that run 13s or faster. Compare that with say, 1995.
When I race my bike, it doesn't feel fast at all. Put me in a 10/11 second car, and I'll damn near swallow my tongue from the torque.
If 13s is fast, then everyone around here is fast. Uh, no. Henry, Zick, Burgess, Smith, Tufte, Faul, Harvey, Braunagel, Dammen...etc, these boys are/have been FAST.
But of course Ethans opinion owns. I think "fast" is in the opinion of each and every individual person. Just like anything in life, its all relative to personal experience and environment. IE: If one has been excposed to certain caliber or degree of cars, or any motor for that matter, they are subjected to a higher standard. You cannot define it overall said and done. That is arrogrant, and quite frankly foolish, to define on an entire perspective and spectrum of an idea. Whenever I took out my wrx, and people will vouch for it on the street, it wasn't touched. Period. It wasn't like I was just racing crappy ol civic's either. I'm talking modded 1g/2g dsm's, mustangs, SS camaro, etc. Also I would like to make the point that I realize your not calling my car slow, but once again in retrospective, in my experience it is fast to me, and quite frankly that's all that matters. To the people who test drove my car, it was fast, to the people who have had the experience of driving my car it was fast. Simple as that.
You are absolutely correct on the bar being raised, even in the few years I have been in the "scene" it is quite obvious the standards are becoming increasingly more difficult to compete and compare with. So I won't argue you on that point.
So once again I reiterate my main idea, the idea or notion of "fast" is completely relative to one's environment, and experience, therefore when I state "I won't have a fast car anymore" I wasn't ever exposed to a high degree of motorsports, my first car in the tuning world was a 1.7 SOHC VTEC-E Equipped 7th gen civic. Definately not fast in my experience now, after driving my WRX. Now would that civic be "fast" compared to a person driving a Geo Metro? Maybe. It's all relative.