tntmstr wrote:
I'd have to agree with Jeff on the smartest, most mature thing I have heard from Nick... Not a bash at all, just looks like some people grow up, and then again others choose not too. I don't like getting into the middle of the he said, she said garbage, because I have way better things to do with my time... But I felt like wasting 10 minutes of my life so I read this thread.... Back to the point, I will agree that tintmasters got a lot of coverage, and I also agree that the forum really should have looked further into the sport of 'tuning' a car. They got a lot of the lights, and wheels, and other add on accessory parts down pretty good, but yes the verbage of a lot of the performance stuff was poor. And had they visited a shop who's main focus is performance, it would have sounded a lot more professional and informative. But I guess one thing for everyone to look up at, is the fact that at least the community and sorts are starting to SEE what we are doing and now they understand a little more where their kids come from when they want a 'performance mod' and that their kids aren't just in a 'phase' and it is a healthy hobby. Not a perfect story, we all realize that, but our sport was the MAIN FEATURE to the cover of the paper for 3 days straight. So we have to be thankful for that at least.
In regards to the garbage and usual drama and bs that happens on most forums around here.... I have always said, you choose where you want to go to get your work done. Plain and simple. But when a shop around here makes a mistake, or something doesn't go exactly as planned, everyone is VERY quick to run and tell everyone they can. That is what life is about.... Do a thousand people right, they will tell one person. Do one person WRONG and they will tell a thousand people. A little insight into the O'gorman project so we can get it on the table and I can be the first to say that one of the employees HERE at TINTMASTERS didn't finish a job they were paid to do. The swap was in a HX civic hatch, which is quiet a little bit more 'involved' if you will than say into a CX. It takes a lot of knowledge and a lot of trial and error to get it all right. We were asked to do it, without ever putting a swap into a HX civic and figured we had enough resources to make it done right. After a lot of work from EVERYONE at the shop, we found ourselves looking to other people for help (Omar in Texas, Ryan in Sioux Falls). We spent many MANY hours looking for the issue. Tested the Vtec solenoid, tested the ecu, tested all we could. This took Shane, Dustin, Jerry, and others a long time. And still we were left with questions. Could it have been wiring? doubtful, but YES... Could have it been from machine work? doubtful, but YES... Could it be with the new cams installed? doubtful, but YES.... We looked into all of this! We even hard wired vtec with a switch and it didn't work!! So it wasn't that we just simply tried to put it in over an afternoon, didn't get vtec working and said "well sorry, but no vtec, and that will be **** amount of dollar please". We spent hours after the working day to try and get it all working, and all of that seems to be left untold through all of this. When we would try and get the car here to have us keep looking, the customer was very hard to work with and unwilling to leave the vehicle for us to look into it, when time permitted. Not his fault, it is ours, but makes it harder for us to fix the issue. I am sick of the bs from everyone about how we screwed it up and this and that. YES WE WERE UNABLE TO GET THE VTEC WORKING IN A TIMELY FASHION, BUT WERE WILLING TO DO WHATEVER IT TOOK TO GET IT WORKING. The customer decided to take it to another shop to have it looked into, and I guess as the story is told, was able to make it work. Makes us look bad, but at the same time, we are not idiots, or morons, or unable to do swaps or whatever some people on here are trying to prove. You have heard the truth up front from the manager of tintmasters, and now that all pride and ego's are put aside, I hope we can let it go and get back to the people of the scene. Choose where you want to go to get your work done. I am confident that any place in town is able to do quality work on most vehicles.... But lets not forget that problems arise in ALL types of business and when they do it is how the company handles the issues and problems that makes or breaks their business. As always we will stand behind our work.... good or bad..... whenever the bad may have to strike.
Jason Christopherson
Store Manager
tintmasters motorsports
(701)239-8468
I just wasted 3 minutes of my life on that one Chach. Whoever does the most work, makes the most money and has the biggest rep will always get the spotlight for the good (nespaper) and for the bad (no vtec in swap). Tintmasters has been doing this for years and Shane has always done great with the "I dont give a fuck attitude"... Keep it that way..
Leave the drama for the animals and do what you do.
